Originally Posted by Universal Mind
I want somebody to tell me how the relativity equations don't prove the nonexistence of God. I see people asking how they do, but I am asking you to tell me how they don't. You need to start by explaining what the equations mean and explain a summary of the proof. If you can't do that, then you can't argue and the proof that God does not exist still stands.
To be honest, I don't think you understand the theory well enough to back that claim up, which is why you refuse to explain yourself. And I also believe that you are banking on the fact that others do not suffiently understand the equation either, meaning you think you can claim whatever you want (be it true of false) and assert that its true because we can't explain the equation good enough to debunk the assertion.
But you forget that the burden of proof in on the person making the claim, and you claim that this equation disproves the existence of god. So far, I haven't actually made the claim that the equation doesn't disprove god, I merely asked how it did (which is asking a question, not stating a claim).
And even if someone did claim that the equation doesn't disprove the existence of God, obviously they did this after you made the initial claim, meaning that, in either case, you need to substantiate your claim for such a claim to be considered true. This is the exact same flaw atheism is based off of, and this is one more example of why its a flaw.
So if you want to play that game, so be it. On the contrary, the theory of relativity actually proves that a creator exists. And until you can prove it otherwise, then this proof of God's existence stands.
Originally Posted by wendylove
He was making the point that we know how the world works, we don't need god just advance physics and mathematics. Put it this way, god doesn't hold us to the ground, matter bending spacetime does.
All science has been able to do so far is explain how/why certain phenomena are natural occurances. But, it hasn't been able to tackle the question of the ultimate nature of "nature", which is why science is far from debunking the notion of a creator, assuming science is even able debunk that which is beyound its means to begin with.
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