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      You can't impose a given on those you're asking.

      You're asking what would happen if I "ended up" in Hell, whatever it may be realised as. But my position is that no one and nothing can force me to "end up" or remain in Hell. Hence, the above comment of mine.

      Not everyone believes that the concept of Hell is absolute, that there's no way out. Not everyone thinks that there are absolute ultimate dead ends like Heaven or Hell. Some people are ambitious enough to realise that we are all-powerful in the end.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Merlock View Post
      You can't impose a given on those you're asking.

      You're asking what would happen if I "ended up" in Hell, whatever it may be realised as. But my position is that no one and nothing can force me to "end up" or remain in Hell. Hence, the above comment of mine.

      Not everyone believes that the concept of Hell is absolute, that there's no way out. Not everyone thinks that there are absolute ultimate dead ends like Heaven or Hell. Some people are ambitious enough to realise that we are all-powerful in the end.
      Well then don't answer my question, because I'm giving a question based on certain standards. its like asking, what if there were monsters underneath your bed, and they wanted to hurt you? and then you reply, well, in my opinion, monsters don't hurt, and I would become a monster too. it would defeat the purpose of the question.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Dewitback View Post
      Well then don't answer my question, because I'm giving a question based on certain standards. its like asking, what if there were monsters underneath your bed, and they wanted to hurt you? and then you reply, well, in my opinion, monsters don't hurt, and I would become a monster too. it would defeat the purpose of the question.
      So this is a question for everyone except those who point out that it's nonsense?
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      no, its a "if this, then what" question.

      Quote Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant View Post
      This question seems utterly pointless. What would be the point in saying anything? It's like asking, "What would you wear?"
      Don't you ever ask "what would you wear?"
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      ^^ i.e. "hypothetical."

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant View Post
      ^^ i.e. "hypothetical."
      lol, thats the word.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Dewitback View Post
      lol, thats the word.
      I would be the first person to ever break out of hell and kill god. In fact my next book I'm planning on writing is about this happening.

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      And mine was an "if this, then that" answer... (If I ended up there, I'd leave.)
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      Quote Originally Posted by Merlock View Post
      You can't impose a given on those you're asking.

      You're asking what would happen if I "ended up" in Hell, whatever it may be realised as. But my position is that no one and nothing can force me to "end up" or remain in Hell. Hence, the above comment of mine.

      Not everyone believes that the concept of Hell is absolute, that there's no way out. Not everyone thinks that there are absolute ultimate dead ends like Heaven or Hell. Some people are ambitious enough to realise that we are all-powerful in the end.
      Ditto

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      he is asking a hypothetical you know.. you can't exactly find fault in that.

      It;s like me asking " what if you found out all other humans couldn't hear but had been reading your mind so it seemed to you as if they could since they responded to your voice and you were just some kind of experiment of how people can live without telepathic abilities." It's a dumb question really, but it;s just a hypothetical, i have no problem with those..

      OK well i thought the point of Hell was that there was no escape( unless your Muslim, but even then non-believers can never leave) no matter what. So it would be to late to appeal to God or apologize or anything. So really there was nothing i could do, i'd just have to face torture for ever and ever.

      However i'd assume if Hell and Heaven did exist( personally i don't believe in them). That you;d stand before God and Satan( maybe only God, but Satan ,ay have some kind of say, he is obviously on almost equal terms as God, did he not try and revolt against God? God seems to have no power over Satan so i assume they are equals in a way) and be able to ask questions, plead your case, here their judgments on you etc. I suppose that obviously i'd believe in that event, im Atheist but obviously being before God and Satan going to make me realize i was wrong. So i'd truthfully be sorry for not following God like i was supposed to. If he is the God described in the Bible a severely doubt he would be merciful to me. however if he was a compassionate God that did indeed know me from birth and already knew my life's path. He would forgive my unbelief but understand my life was virtuous and kind otherwise.

      However i would not bother to appeal or plead on my knees like a pitiful little creature. Obviously Gods ruling would be absolute so challenging it would be a waste of time, i would hope he i was a just being, if he wasn't i;d have to accept it. Maybe I'd talk to Satan, i've always wanted to know if he was actually evil. I mean he tried to take over Gods position right? Well maybe he was bringing about a revolution from the Old testament God of fury and pain and if he were in charge he would actually make sure all humans had the basic needs for life, as he would likely be about materialism. I would want to know if he actually enjoyed torturing humans, i don;t understand why he is depicted as a truly evil being, he made humans have sentience, ok sentience becomes with shame and the ability to do great evil but also with the ability to do amazing things.
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      I don't understand the question. How can you think if you are in everlasting pain?
      Even if you could, what is the point, you'd be staying there for an eternity. It's impossible to answer your question... I would be thinking for an eternity and there is a limit to the number of things I can say. There'd be no logical purpose for the existance of hell, unless this god was an evil sadist (biblical god, ha!).
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      I would find a concious being and logically argue the non-existence of such a place, hence realising it is a creation of my own mind in the seconds before death whilst my brain is shutting down and hence dying peacefully and rotting away out of existence.

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