Thread: The Ultimate Argument

I had an idea. Why don't we try to bring nearly every argument against various religions into one place to create a sort of library of all the good arguments of everything. This could be a sort of reference for people to gather things from and a place to discuss lots of them. If you are religious, you could argue your answer to them, and they could get put into the library thing.


Sound like a good idea?

This post is reserved for the arguments if the idea is liked.

Good luck.

Thanks.

General argument against the use of faith-based "reasoning":

I am God. Everything I say is true. All naysayers are wrong, and will roast. You must have faith in me. Prove me wrong.

Originally Posted by thegnome54

General argument against the use of faith-based "reasoning":

I am God. Everything I say is true. All naysayers are wrong, and will roast. You must have faith in me. Prove me wrong.

We have a start.

I think it should probably be organized. First we should tackle Christianity since it's the biggest and most apparent. We could divide it into segments such as the Bible, their portrayal of God, Jesus, etc. Then maybe into further sub-topics in each category.

Should I set up a sort of system real quick? I might do it after I get done reading something.

This is so OT but gnome, if I was stoned I could stare at your avatar for hours.

Not being stoned I still stared for a couple minutes.

Originally Posted by Stephent91

I had an idea. Why don't we try to bring nearly every argument against various religions into one place to create a sort of library of all the good arguments of everything.

Yeah, then once you have enough of them in different sections, you could bind them to form a sort of atheist canon, and you could refer to them to answer any questions that came up about religion.



Sorry, I just don't see the value of choosing sides then tossing the same talking points back and forth ad infinitum. That doesn't strike me as "thinking for yourself."

Originally Posted by Taosaur

Yeah, then once you have enough of them in different sections, you could bind them to form a sort of atheist canon, and you could refer to them to answer any questions that came up about religion.



Sorry, I just don't see the value of choosing sides then tossing the same talking points back and forth ad infinitum. That doesn't strike me as "thinking for yourself."

I was going to make a similar post. Isn't this the sort of thing atheists are usually arguing agianst; pre-packaged answers? I just think that if you use logic to define your beliefs then it should be easy to come up with your own arguments and opinions. That is the purpose of logic after all, a system of thought that can lead to a good answer without having to memorize it ahead of time.

I agree.


Work out who with. {It's not who you'd think}

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

I agree.


Work out who with. {It's not who you'd think}

Wat?

I mean here are the basic pro-religion arguments that I can come up with off the top of my head, and these are really easy because they are refuted in pretty much every debate... so perhaps they're not all that useful for a "library," but they might be for people who are new to arguing.

1. Religion gives us morals.
2. People need religion to be happy.
3. The universe is too complex for there to be no god.
4. I had a religious experience a few years ago.
5. You can't prove that god doesn't exist.

Hang on, I thought there were more basic ones... Well, I'll come back to this.