Thread: People born with genetic disorders?

Originally Posted by 100 years ago

PEOPLE WITH DOWNS HAVE NO SOULS >8c

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Basically can someone explain, in terms of God/religion, why we have an imperfect creation system( reproduction) and so why get genetic disorders and the like..

Is it that God intended for some kind of natural selection( they would die without intervention)

exactly

So we should actually kill them right away to speed up God's intentions?

Originally Posted by Pyrofan1

exactly

Marvo was on track.

Hitler was right allll along!!!!!...

Originally Posted by Marvo

So we should actually kill them right away to speed up God's intentions?

Or just sterilyze them.

Originally Posted by dragonoverlord

Or just sterilyze them.

yep that was Hitlers idea, anyone with a heredity illness was to be sterilized or anyone suffering from a disability or genetic disorder etc( although it wasn't called genetic disorder in those days). Hitler was 100% natural selection, maybe he didn't lie when he said it was Gods will for his plans to succeed.


Anyway this is getting off-topic already, can anyone with a more religious answer?

There is no answer, and if anybody tries, it will be a halfarsed made up shitty answer that makes no sense when you think about it, and that's exactly what you're trying to get people to do, so that you can bash and nitpick them, and you know it.

Now, lock this crappy thread, before a shitstorm of people who knows nothing about anything crawls out of the holes in the wall.

very well, although actually since we did biology today i was generally interested in the way religious people view it. But very well!!

MARVO SAYS THREAD LOCKED, BY HIS LOGIC LOCKED IT SHALL BE!!

Maybe someone religious could like, pm me or something with an answer.

Certainly, religious people can give you their individual view, but there's no answer for each religion, since most of todays religions spawned way before genetics were discovered.

Once again I'll have to say though, that nobody can provide you with a good answer, since no matter how hard they try, what they say will contradict something in their religious writings.

Bottomline: Genetics are not covered in any of the religions, and thus a good answer is not possible, unless people start interpretting what they read in a different way, and thus make it an individual answer.

maybe i could just simply it to, why are children born with horrible deformities/diseases?

Because of bad genetic mutations.

Bad gentics.

Why bad genetics?

Evolution failed.

Evolution real?!

No.

What then?

God made them idiots!

Really?

Yeah.

Your God sucks then D:

No he's awesome.

lolwut


You can see where this will go, right?

The religious answer is that people are meant to suffer...something about without suffering there couldn't be enjoyment, or to make us appreciate things or something along those lines. Or something like we are meant to learn from people who face adversity or something, basically the answer is to teach us a lesson.

The answer to your question will be easily answered if you change it to what you really mean which is "why is there suffering." And don't worry, religious people will fill you in with their version of why. Or their religious leaders version of why.

Originally Posted by cuddleyperson

yep that was Hitlers idea, anyone with a heredity illness was to be sterilized or anyone suffering from a disability or genetic disorder etc( although it wasn't called genetic disorder in those days). Hitler was 100% natural selection, maybe he didn't lie when he said it was Gods will for his plans to succeed.


Anyway this is getting off-topic already, can anyone with a more religious answer?

Just to add. He sterilyzed Non-Aryans too. Like jews, gypsies, slavs anyone who wasn't "Aryan".

can anyone with a more religious answer?

People are born with genetic defects because that's nature. Why should humans be exempt from that when plants and animals suffer from it, they may have even chosen to be disabled. Should disabled people be executed? No. Why? because unlike other animals we can do something about it. If a cheetah is born with no legs then it will die because the mother can't do anything about it, but if a human is born without legs we can care for it and it won't die.

Originally Posted by Pyrofan1

People are born with genetic defects because that's nature. Why should humans be exempt from that when plants and animals suffer from it, they may have even chosen to be disabled. Should disabled people be executed? No. Why? because unlike other animals we can do something about it. If a cheetah is born with no legs then it will die because the mother can't do anything about it, but if a human is born without legs we can care for it and it won't die.

Then nature doesn't sound like its designed by an allpowerful allgood being.

Then nature doesn't sound like its designed by an allpowerful allgood being.

I never said the Divine was all good.

Originally Posted by Pyrofan1

I never said the Divine was all good.

Aha.

Originally Posted by Pyrofan1

I never said the Divine was all good.

On that note there is no evidence or even a slight reason to evn consider the possibility of a divine or a group of divine entities.

Originally Posted by dragonoverlord

Just to add. He sterilyzed Non-Aryans too. Like jews, gypsies, slavs anyone who wasn't "Aryan".

Ah yes i know but in his early days, before he just said " hell with it all non-aryans die", his main idea was to firstly eliminate genetic disorders and other heredity diseases( i think to him homosexuality feel into that category)

Maybe is passed souls being punished for something they've done.

Originally Posted by shotbirds

Maybe is passed souls being punished for something they've done.

Why is this more likely or even plausible at all than the obvious proved fact that they have various physical mutations and problems in development.

Originally Posted by cuddleyperson

Ah yes i know but in his early days, before he just said " hell with it all non-aryans die", his main idea was to firstly eliminate genetic disorders and other heredity diseases( i think to him homosexuality feel into that category)

Hitler had some serious self hate issues man. First with the whole Jew thing, and then the homo thing?

lol

First with one of his parents being a Jew and then the whole he liked like boys thing =P