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      I'm sorry but please tell me how satanism is an intelligent religious choice?I just can't get over the stupidity of it.....I mean God created Lucifer so obviously he can unmake him and why or how would you follow someone who you know is evil and you know is just using you for his own ends...answer?
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      Quote Originally Posted by ray View Post
      I'm sorry but please tell me how satanism is an intelligent religious choice?I just can't get over the stupidity of it.....I mean God created Lucifer so obviously he can unmake him and why or how would you follow someone who you know is evil and you know is just using you for his own ends...answer?
      Depends on what kind of Satanism you are referring to... the Christian idea of satanism, or LeVeyan Satanism....
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      Quote Originally Posted by bluefinger View Post
      the Christian idea of satanism
      That is the dumbest religion on the planet. I don't think it's even possible for a religions to be stupider than that one. I don't agree with the supernatural ideas in Christianity in the first place, but if somebody does, they are really stepping into the absurd zone by trusting the master of pure evil AND for thinking an infinitely powerful being that is everywhere cannot take him in a fight. I mean, duuuuuuuuhhhhhhh.....
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      That is the dumbest religion on the planet. I don't think it's even possible for a religions to be stupider than that one. I don't agree with the supernatural ideas in Christianity in the first place, but if somebody does, they are really stepping into the absurd zone by trusting the master of pure evil AND for thinking an infinitely powerful being that is everywhere cannot take him in a fight. I mean, duuuuuuuuhhhhhhh.....
      Even that is dependent on where you source your belief in what Satan is supposed to be. In the OT, Satan is more of the loyal opposition to God, always coming over to disagree, but never declaring any animosity. It is only in the NT where Satan is made to be the supreme ruler of all ebulness...
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      Satan is not evil to satanists, he was exiled by a patriarchal bastard with a superiority complex. I won't get into LeVayism because it's essentially atheism with black magic.

      The demon worshipping types don't believe in the bible, though, obviously, so your point is irrelevant, UM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnius Deus View Post
      The demon worshipping types don't believe in the bible, though, obviously, so your point is irrelevant, UM.
      That is a false generalization. Besides, if they are not talking about the Satan of the Bible, the book where the character originated long before the other Satan versions, they are going with spin off mythology and should know that they are talking out of their asses. It is like saying you worship Jesus, but not the Jesus of the Bible, instead some Jesus who showed up in some other story hundreds of years later. Any way you look at it, they are idiots.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ray View Post
      I'm sorry but please tell me how satanism is an intelligent religious choice?I just can't get over the stupidity of it.....I mean God created Lucifer so obviously he can unmake him and why or how would you follow someone who you know is evil and you know is just using you for his own ends...answer?
      One does not need to work within the bounds of Christian theology.

      One could very well come to the conclusion that the Judeo-Christian deity is evil, or that Satan heroically killed that god, or that this demiurge is in fact not omnipotent/omniescient/omnipresent, and such a belief system would be no more or less valid than that of Christianity.

      I'm sorry but please tell me how Christianity is an intelligent religious choice?I just can't get over the stupidity of it.....I mean humans created God so obviously we can unmake him and why or how would you follow someone who you know is evil and you know is just using you for his own ends...answer?

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      I'm sorry but please tell me how Christianity is an intelligent religious choice?I just can't get over the stupidity of it.....I mean Satan killed God so obviously he is strongest and why or how would you follow someone who you know is dead and you know is just a celestial corpse...answer?
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      Satan is a Judeo-Christian character. He is a character of a specific book. Making up stuff about him that is not in the Bible is like saying Hannibal Lecter travels the world and gives children ice cream cones.
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