Why i think god does not exist!

**Dreamhope11** · 05-30-2008 11:12 PM

Come on people we are living in the 21st century, science has shown us how the earth was created, back in the day people didn't have the technology we had today so they assumed a god made the earth. They thought that when crops grew good it was god who did it. The Mayans prayed to god in hope that the sun would rise the next day, which of course the earth spins. God was created by mankind, god is just a mass thought. Lets say a huge comet was about to hit earth and destroy it, people would pray, but why?

**Dreamhope11** · 05-30-2008 11:16 PM

Because we all know god aint gunna save us.... Why didnt god get someone to build a new noahs ark when the tsunami hit.. People used to be scared shitless to say gods name in vein, nowadays we do it all the time cause god aint gunna do nuthing.

**Maestro** · 05-30-2008 11:19 PM

Not believing in God is a fine thing, but not believing in God for these reasons is not.

**ChaybaChayba** · 05-30-2008 11:20 PM

Let's assume I define God as the universe.
Science has proven we have been created by the universe.
Therefor, science shows, we have been created by God.

You think this is unlikely, because you define God as a fairy of some sorts, therefor, you logically decide we could not have been created by a fairy. When you do not have a retarded definition of God you will not reach any retarded conclusions about God.

**Dreamhope11** · 05-30-2008 11:25 PM

People say God created the universe but how can god create its self its like your mother giving birth to her self.

**Universal Mind** · 05-30-2008 11:31 PM

I call socks "God". Therefore, I have God on both of my feet.

**Dreamhope11** · 05-30-2008 11:32 PM

God created the earth in a few days did he? I thought science taught us planets took millions of years to form. Gods creation of earth is far from perfect. "God created yellowstone the devastating volcano, he saw that it was good" - The Bible "God created deadly viruses, he saw that it was good"- The Bible

**Serkat** · 05-30-2008 11:33 PM

Fish my hand cock, noodle simply yes hello!

**Goldney** · 05-31-2008 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

Let's assume I define God as the universe.
Science has proven we have been created by the universe.
Therefor, science shows, we have been created by God.

No science does not show that God created us. You say that God created us.

Let's assume I define God as an ant.
Science has proven that ants did not create the universe.
Therefore science shows that God did not create the universe.

**Nefarious** · 05-31-2008 01:13 AM

Thoughts are material if mankind created god with it's thoughts then it exists.

**ChaybaChayba** · 05-31-2008 01:24 AM

Ok since the other thread got closed, you can continue here. This is where I left off:

I'm just pointing out that believing in atheism, will always, inevitably, lead to a paradox in your own belief system.

Being an atheist, is completely pointless.

**Goldney** · 05-31-2008 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by Nefarious

Thoughts are material. If mankind created god with its thoughts then He exists.

What?! Where's your proof?! I kind of see your point in that the concept of God exists due to people's thoughts; but just because people believe in Him does not make Him exist.

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

I'm just pointing out that believing in atheism, will always, inevitably, lead to a paradox in your own belief system.

Being an atheist, is completely pointless.

What paradox? That atheists have to believe in a God in order to NOT believe in Him?

PS: Nice save.

**ChaybaChayba** · 05-31-2008 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by Goldney

No science does not show that God created us. You say that God created us.

Let's assume I define God as an ant.
Science has proven that ants did not create the universe.
Therefore science shows that God did not create the universe.

No. Science shows YOUR God did not create the universe. See the difference?

Your God might be bullshit, I wont argue with that.

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

When you do not have a retarded definition of God you will not reach any retarded conclusions about God.

**Goldney** · 05-31-2008 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

No. Science shows YOUR God did not create the universe.

Aha! But I used. Your. Exact. Argument. Which you just disproved!

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

Let's assume I define God as the universe.
Science has proven we have been created by the universe.
Therefor, science shows, we have been created by God.

**Sornaensis** · 05-31-2008 01:31 AM

Only something that exists outside of reality can fit the description of god.

Anything else has a readily available and better substitute.

The only thing pointless here is your constant redefining "God".

**ChaybaChayba** · 05-31-2008 01:31 AM

Nope, you used another argument.

No, you used ants. Science doesn't say anything relative about ants.
I used the universe. Science does say something relative about the universe.

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

Only something that exists outside of reality can fit the description of god.

Anything else has a readily available and better substitute.

The only thing pointless here is your constant redefining "God".

There you go again. Claiming you hold the only correct definition of God. Like you were some prophet.

**Goldney** · 05-31-2008 01:32 AM

Perhaps we need a standard definition of God...

**ChaybaChayba** · 05-31-2008 01:33 AM

Or perhaps you need to realize there is no standard definition of God, and therefor, atheism will always lead to a paradox.

**Goldney** · 05-31-2008 01:34 AM

But then how do you believe in God if there is no defined definition for it?

PS: It's therefore. Therefor means "for that". Therefore means "so".

**Sornaensis** · 05-31-2008 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

There you go again. Claiming you hold the only correct definition of God. Like you were some prophet.

Better my definition then.

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

Or perhaps you need to realize there is no standard definition of God, and therefor, atheism will always lead to a paradox.

Then anything pertaining to God is pointless.

Thus making religion the ultimatum of the pointlessness because they assert he exists IN A SPECIFIC WAY.

**AnDUHrew** · 05-31-2008 03:43 AM

very humourous. good point. god is whatever we want 'it' to be.

**LucidFlanders** · 05-31-2008 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

There you go again. Claiming you hold the only correct definition of God. Like you were some prophet.

You're not used to him by now?

he always thinks he knows the right answer for everything.

**Dreamhope11** · 05-31-2008 09:22 AM

Lets assums god is nature, nature provides us with food to live with, nature provides us with fresh water to drink, nature provides all the stuff we need to live.. So there

**Goldney** · 05-31-2008 12:45 PM

I don't think any argument with the word "assume" in it can be taken seriously.

**Sornaensis** · 05-31-2008 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

You're not used to him by now?

he always thinks he knows the right answer for everything.

Well in this forum my thought pattern always seems to come through.

And I'm really disappointed that you can't wrap your head around the logic: If you define God as a Wrench then why no just call him a Wrench?

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