Speaking for my self here, I would only become Christian if God appeared to me, proved me his omnipotence and omniscience and then told me specifically the bible is his word and Christianity is correct. |
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before i ask the question, i'll already give an answer to one i'm sure someone will want to ask me "why do you think a christian would turn atheist?" the answer is because there's no proof of god. |
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Last edited by nitsuJ; 07-19-2008 at 09:51 PM.
Speaking for my self here, I would only become Christian if God appeared to me, proved me his omnipotence and omniscience and then told me specifically the bible is his word and Christianity is correct. |
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- Are you an idiot?
- No sir, I'm a dreamer.
something else to add to this, from antony flew, |
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Last edited by nitsuJ; 07-19-2008 at 10:01 PM.
I fail to see how that is relevant to the topic. |
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- Are you an idiot?
- No sir, I'm a dreamer.
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Humans have designed things more complex than DNA. Does that mean we're hyper-super-intelligent? |
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- Are you an idiot?
- No sir, I'm a dreamer.
The laptop I'm using right now. |
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- Are you an idiot?
- No sir, I'm a dreamer.
Don't forget Terry Pratchett - although he hasn't exactly conformed to christianity. He just thinks there is a God. |
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The whole Human genome would fit onto a DVD (normal sized would constitute 4GB, the human genome would not fill a DVD), and that is all the junk DNA and DNA that is not exclusive to humans. For DNA unique to yourself, a file the size of a normal mp3 would do. |
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-Bluefinger v1.25- Enter the madness that are my dreams (DJ Update, non-LD)
"When you reject the scientific method in order to believe what you want, you know that you have failed at life. Sorry, but there is no justification, no matter how wordy you make it."
- Xei
DILD: 6, WILD: 1
it's getting off topic, back to the question, why would an atheist start to believe in a god? |
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You started claiming DNA was somehow so complex that only through an intelligent force could it arise. We showed you that was not the case simply by comparing it to things we have designed that were far more complex. |
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-Bluefinger v1.25- Enter the madness that are my dreams (DJ Update, non-LD)
"When you reject the scientific method in order to believe what you want, you know that you have failed at life. Sorry, but there is no justification, no matter how wordy you make it."
- Xei
DILD: 6, WILD: 1
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We've done experiments such as probing into the very nature of matter by accelerating particles to huge energies and smashing them together, and then detecting the resulting radiation and particles emitted from such collisions with incredibly sensitive equipment. |
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-Bluefinger v1.25- Enter the madness that are my dreams (DJ Update, non-LD)
"When you reject the scientific method in order to believe what you want, you know that you have failed at life. Sorry, but there is no justification, no matter how wordy you make it."
- Xei
DILD: 6, WILD: 1
I do know atheists who have considered the possibility of some for of God because of biology. they see biology, and they see something that could not have just come about randomly, or through chance. |
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Most people I know who've converted to Christianity or another faith have done so because evidence of mystical or religious experience doesn't fit with atheism, they feel like there is a God and this feeling is too strong to ignore, they need a reason to hope or they are afraid of death. |
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Apachama: Noun. Slimey things made of dust.
"Everything is beautiful"
That's bullcrap. There's nothing that would keep an atheist from spiritual experiences and activities including but not limited to meditation, hypnosis, the intake of pyschoactive drugs, sensory deprivation, lucidity, ascetism, spiritual retreats, fasting and other such things. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1eP84n-Lvw
Ich brauche keine Waffe.
Ich ermittle ausschließlich mit dem Gehirn!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1eP84n-Lvw
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I agree. Yet another reason I dislike Christianity. Absolute truth in one little book. Where's the fun in that? Truth is something you have to search for, struggle for. |
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Apachama: Noun. Slimey things made of dust.
"Everything is beautiful"
You're not talking about Christianity but the pope and the catholic church establishment and the child molesters that threaten with hellfire. They aren't authorities of Christianity just like the school bully isn't the teacher. The bible is extremely difficult to understand when you are studying it on your own without others telling you what to think about it. The symbolism is so rich and the parables so deep that you actually need geometry, maths, and a number of other sciences to begin to appreciate what it is even representing or saying spiritually. It's writings is not complete parts have being taken out through history. For instance there is no direct writing from Jesus in his own words. Who knows what they have locked up in the Vatican lets not even go there. |
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Last edited by Minervas Phoenix; 07-20-2008 at 03:30 PM.
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