Quote Originally Posted by nitsuJ View Post

Haha, I don't have to actually show you a monkey evolving to a human for you to believe they did. I just have to show you a fossil and tell you that's how it happens. Aw, how cute. Fossils don't prove evolution (reptiles to mammals, or what have you), they only can let you make assumptions.
And you failed to understand my statements earlier, we didn't evolve from monkeys, only a moron with no understanding of evolution would believe that. Go to the zoo and you will see what we didn't evolve from.


You are inherently wrong. Look up the definition of evolution (change in inherited traits) and then look at a fossil record and tell me that doesn't prove evolution.

Morons are so quick to say "there are missing records in the fossil record thus evolution must be wrong." They say this inspite of everything else that the theory is proven to be true about.

Hell didn't we just have a thread that spoke about how birds have dna in them from dinosaurs?

Didn't I make a thread about the ever famous crocoduck?
Archaeopteryx
Quote Originally Posted by nitsuJ View Post
Uhm, no. Atheists "call bullshit" and tell the theist to prove it, atheists do nothing to find out for themselves. So from your statement let's take for example, evolution, a scientist "calls bullshit" so from what you say he must find someone that believes in evolution to prove it? We both know the scientists will go prove it for himself and do his own research.
Lol. I suppose all scientists rely on research that they have done themselves, and it is not a collaborated effort.
Meanwhile what evidence do you have that atheists don't look for it themselves? We look all the time for the TRUTH. We simply ask other people to show us what proof they have so that we can see if that is proof enough for us.

Look up what "peer review" is and then maybe you'll understand the purpose of asking other people for their proofs.

We have already examined the evidence that is available to us, and we find the evidence LACKING. We ask others because hey, perhaps we're wrong, perhaps our thesis could use a bit of sprucing up, we've used up all our possible resource for evidence, maybe they have some new stuff.

More often than not the proof other people have is something we have ALREADY heard, and we happen to think that "go outside and look at the trees" isn't good enough.

Quote Originally Posted by nitsuJ View Post
Seems hypocritical that you criticize theists for believing a God must exist but never provide actual proof, yet you don't criticize evolutionists for believing reptiles evolved into mammals when they have no actual proof.
What do you want a video recording of events that happened in the span of millions of years?

"No actual proof."

Try medicine.

Well evolution btw is a fact...the evidence is there. It isn't "just" a theory as some people would say. It is a THEORY. That means its GOOD. When something is a scientific theory, that means it is the best possible explanation we can have at our current understanding of the world around us.


Quote Originally Posted by http://anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evolve_3.htm
How Do We Know That Evolution Has Occurred?

The evidence for evolution has primarily come from four sources:

1. the fossil record of change in earlier species
2. the chemical and anatomical similarities of related life forms
3. the geographic distribution of related species
4. the recorded genetic changes in living organisms over many generations


The Fossil Record


Geological strata containing an
evolutionary sequence of fossils
Remains of animals and plants found in sedimentary rock deposits give us an indisputable record of past changes through time. This evidence attests to the fact that there has been a tremendous variety of living things. Some extinct species had traits that were transitional between major groups of organisms. Their existence confirms that species are not fixed but can evolve into other species over time.

The evidence also shows that what have appeared to be gaps in the fossil record are due to incomplete data collection. The more that we learn about the evolution of specific species lines, the more that these so-called gaps or "missing links in the chain of evolution" are filled with transitional fossil specimens.


Chemical and Anatomical Similarities

Living things on earth are fundamentally similar in the way that their basic anatomical structures develop and in their chemical compositions. No matter whether they are simple single celled protozoa or highly complex organisms with billions of cells, they all begin as single cells that reproduce themselves by similar division processes. After a limited life span, they also all grow old and die.

All living things on earth share the ability to create complex molecules out of carbon and a few other elements. In fact, 99% of the proteins, carbohydrates, fats, and other molecules of living things are made from only 6 of the 92 most common elements. This is not a mere coincidence.

All plants and animals receive their specific characteristics from their parents by inheriting particular combinations of genes. Molecular biologists have discovered that genes are, in fact, segments of DNA molecules in our cells.



section of a DNA molecule

These segments of DNA contain chemically coded recipes for creating proteins by linking together particular amino acids in specific sequences.



simple protein molecule

All of the tens of thousands of types of proteins in living things are made of only 20 kinds of amino acids. Despite the great diversity of life on our planet, the simple language of the DNA code is the same for all living things. This is evidence of the fundamental molecular unity of life.


Human arm bones
(typical vertebrate pattern)

In addition to molecular similarities, most living things are alike in that they either get the energy needed for growth, repair, and reproduction directly from sunlight, by photosynthesis , or they get it indirectly by consuming green plants and other organisms that eat plants.

Many groups of species share the same types of body structures because they inherited them from a common ancestor that had them. This is the case with the vertebrates , which are the animals that have internal skeletons. The arms of humans, the forelegs of dogs and cats, the wings of birds, and the flippers of whales and seals all have the same types of bones (humerus, radius, and ulna) because they have retained these traits of their shared common ancient vertebrate ancestor.

All of these major chemical and anatomical similarities between living things can be most logically accounted for by assuming that they either share a common ancestry or they came into existence as a result of similar natural processes. These facts make it difficult to accept a theory of special and independent creation of different species.
Quote Originally Posted by Justin
What would you say if I showed you a fossil layer from the Cambrian explosion? I mean, you go from the layer before the Cambrian explosion and there's a few different organisms, then you hit the Cambrian explosion layer and there's great quantity and diversity of organisms. Did evolution just speed up and go ridiculously fast at that point and a shit load of organisms just started evolving from each other?
Quote Originally Posted by wiki
The presence of Precambrian animals somewhat dampens the "bang" of the explosion: not only was the appearance of animals gradual, but their evolutionary radiation ("diversification") may also not have been as rapid as once thought. Indeed, statistical analysis shows that the Cambrian explosion was no faster than any of the other radiations in animals' history.4

There is little doubt that disparity – that is, the range of different organism "designs" or "ways of life" – rose sharply in the early Cambrian.[69] However recent research has overthrown the once-popular idea that disparity was exceptionally high throughout the Cambrian, before subsequently decreasing.[72] In fact, disparity remains relatively low throughout the Cambrian, with modern levels of disparity only attained after the early Ordovician radiation.[69]