Originally Posted by davej
Ne-yo, actually there is a lot of scripture that references hell as a real place. If you would do some studying of your own you would see that. Just one example... Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Also Matthew 11:23 states And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.
John 3:16 also states For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
This shows that if you believe in Jesus as your lord then you will be saved. You will not go to Hell. Believe what you want. It is your decision. Not trying to convert anyone... Before you start makeing remarks about the Bible, you should do your research first.
I've done my research, you however seem to be the one misinformed. The King James bible has been butchered and transgressed to no end. It's a wonder why that bible is still in circulation. Take a closer look at some passages and you will find the truth. What really happens to the spirit when a person dies? Psalm 146:4 says: "His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts do perish." When a person dies, his impersonal spirit does not go on existing in another realm as a spirit creature. It "returns to the true God who gave it." (Ecclesiastes 12:7) tells us that this means that any hope of future life for that person now rests entirely with God.
So what does the bible tell us about the true condition of the dead? If you read carefully you will find when God pronounced sentence upon Adam, God stated: "Dust you are and to dust you will return." (Genesis 3:19) Where was Adam before God formed him from the dust of the ground and gave him life? He simply did not exist! When he died, Adam returned to that state of complete absence of life. The condition of the dead is made clear at Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10, where we read: "The dead know nothing, in the grave, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom." Scripturally, death is a state of nonexistence. The dead have no awareness, no feelings, no thoughts.
Hell has a symbolic meaning in the King James bible and people like you take it literally and then infect others with that garbage of an all-consuming, or thorough, destruction? Separating fire from Hades, or hell, the Scriptures say: "Death and Hades were hurled into the lake of fire." "The lake" mentioned here is symbolic, since death and hell (Hades) that are thrown into it cannot literally be burned. "This [lake of fire] means the second death" death from which there is no hope of coming back to life. read Revelation 20:14.
Take special notice that the lake of fire has a meaning similar to that of "the fiery Gehenna [hell fire, King James Version]" that Jesus spoke of. (Matthew 5:22; Mark 9:47, 48) Gehenna occurs 12 times in the Christian Greek Scriptures, and it refers to the valley of Hinnom, outside the walls of Jerusalem. When Jesus was on earth, this valley was used as a garbage dump, "where the dead bodies of criminals, and the carcasses of animals, and every other kind of filth was cast." (Smith's Dictionary of the Bible) The fires were kept burning by adding sulfur to burn up the refuse. Jesus used that valley as a proper symbol of everlasting destruction.
As does Gehenna, the lake of fire symbolizes eternal destruction. Death and Hades are "hurled into" it in that they will be done away with when mankind is freed from sin and the condemnation of death. Willful, unrepentant sinners will also have their "portion" in that lake. (Revelation 21:8) They too will be annihilated forever. On the other hand, those in God's memory who are in so-called hell which the original Hebrew version mentions the common grave of mankind, have a marvelous future.
Also explain to me why does Revelation mention of "2" resurrections? The righteous and the unrighteous? Do you really think that God would send people to a hell just to resurrect them back? It doesn't make sense and if you are a true Christian you would know in your heart that God is benevolent and not malevolent.
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