Thread: The Theory of Intelligent Design

Look, showing holes in unguided evolution, although not directly supporting creationism, does point towards a designed evolution.

If there are facts A, B, C out there- and out of theory A, B, and C only theory C links them all together, that is a form of support. (If not proof.)

Originally Posted by spockman

Look, showing holes in unguided evolution, although not directly supporting creationism, does point towards a designed evolution.

Not 100%. That's an appeal to ignorance argument, which means that although
it may suggest intelligent design, it still does not definitively prove it.

Originally Posted by Bonsay

Yea that's the thing. If I was an ID person, I'd see the whole "Big Bang to life" transition the miracle of design.

Right! One would think the argument in favor of ID would even be stronger if it
applied to more than just biological entities.

Originally Posted by Invader

Not 100%. That's an appeal to ignorance argument, which means that although
it may suggest intelligent design, it still does not definitively prove it.

Which I conceded in my post.

Well, it ain't idiotic design.

This is just philosophy that I'm posting, not science. Because there is no proof, this is a topic for philosophy. I don't know either way, but I don't find any contradiction either way, and I don't think that it has to be one or the other. In fact I think reality by definition has to be greater than the sum of all ideas about it. Not that all ideas are true, but all mysteries have a paradox at the heart, and this is one such paradox where it is both/neither.

The human brain came from nature so obviously nature is at least as intelligent as a human. I am not sure what my point is. But seriously, what is the difference?
Is it as if the Universe is a dream and we are wondering if there is some creature lucid dreaming it all and we are just dream characters, OR
am I dreaming it not lucidly and am just figuring out that maybe I should do reality checks but it is only kind of working, Or
Are we all dreaming it together randomly un lucidly?

Maybe it is random evolution as long as we are not lucid but when we (or I) become lucid then we (or I) CAN design it intelligently. Maybe there were others (or maybe not) who have attained lucidity already and have designed some of it. Or maybe we are the lucidity of God.