Thread: Sign up for the Shared Dreaming Experiment!

[quote]Sign-Up Sheet for Shared Dreaming Experiments

1. Time zone: GMT -5 Hrs

2. Frequency with which your lucid dream: Very frequent, at times for nights on end!

3. Level of control you usually have in a lucid dream: High to near total control.

4. How long your lucid dreams usually last (This could be tricky, but let's go with perceived dream time): Anywhere between 1/2 and 2 Hrs at a time

5. Have you ever had what you consider to be a shared dream experience?Yes, but with strangers

6. Do you believe that shared dreaming is possible? (i.e. are you a non-believer, skeptic, or true believer?)Unequivocably possible!

7. How would you like to be involved with this experiment-- 3rd party/administrative or LDer?: Instructor in the Dream Realm

8. If you would like to be an LDer, how many nights per week do you anticipate being able to work on this experiment? If you would like to be a third party who compares the dream journals of the participants, how many minutes or hours per day do you anticipate being able to work on the experiment?:A few hours per night - I work afternoons 2-11 Tues - Sat., and I usually go to sleep @ 4:00AM EST

9. If you want to be an LDer, do you already have a dream partner with whom you are comfortable, is there someone who's already signed up with whom you'd like to partner, or would you like to be assigned a partner? I do have a partner, but she's not associated with this forum - I think! I'll share it with her next visit.

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That is good Charybdus! I
am glad you have a partner. Thin has been our difficulty.
Please keep us updated on your progress.
And all of this post are meant for guidelines. Do to the fact we have no real set, scientific basis to follow, you should apply anything that you feel appropriate for your experiment. If it works for you and your partner.

Howetzer

might as well put my name out there. PM me if you're interested...

Sign-Up Sheet for Shared Dreaming Experiments


1. Time zone: Pacific Standard Time (PST) = GMT-8
Pacific Daylight Time (PDT) = GMT-7

2. Frequency with which your lucid dream.- 2-3 times a week

3. Level of control you usually have in a lucid dream. low-moderate (i can fly decently, but my conjuration/alteration abilities on objects are virtually non-existent. i'm working on it though)

4. How long your lucid dreams usually last- 30 seconds median. up to 4 minutes

5. Have you ever had what you consider to be a shared dream experience? no

6. Do you believe that shared dreaming is possible? i think it highly likely

7. How would you like to be involved with this experiment-- LDer

8. If you would like to be an LDer, how many nights per week do you anticipate being able to work on this experiment? i will attempt every night if i find a suitable partner, and anticipate being able to have 3 stable LDs a week with which to work.

9. If you want to be an LDer, do you already have a dream partner with whom you are comfortable, is there someone who's already signed up with whom you'd like to partner, or would you like to be assigned a partner?

open to any and all potential partners, although nobody jumps out from the list yet...

other obligations

If you are still taking people, I am in. I am new to the board, but not to LDs.

Sign-Up Sheet for Shared Dreaming Experiments

1. Time zone
GMT-6 hours
2. Frequency with which your lucid dream.
3-6 times a week
3. Level of control you usually have in a lucid dream.
Partial to near total
4. How long your lucid dreams usually last
1-20 minutes
5. Have you ever had what you consider to be a shared dream experience?
YES
6. Do you believe that shared dreaming is possible? (i.e. are you a non-believer, skeptic, or true believer?)
I have co-documented support that it happens.
7. How would you like to be involved with this experiment-- 3rd party/administrative or LDer?
LDer
8. If you would like to be an LDer, how many nights per week do you anticipate being able to work on this experiment?
I can work on it every night, but LDing usually occurs only 1 or 2 nights a week.
9. If you want to be an LDer, do you already have a dream partner with whom you are comfortable, is there someone who's already signed up with whom you'd like to partner, or would you like to be assigned a partner?
I would like to be assigned a partner. I don't know anyone personally who can do LDing well/often.

1. .EST (eastern standard time) = GST –5
2. Rarely
3. Not much control
4. Varies, but usually short
5. No, unless you count attempting to do so whilst in a dream
6. I believe it can be possible if one tries hard enough
7. Lder
8. As much as possible!
9. Please assign me a partner

I have perfect-to semi-perfect dream recall, and have very clear dreams. I had a dream where I attempted to some sort of experiment! I got Lucid so I was pretty excited! If you’d like me to post what I did in my dream, I will. I doubt it will work in Real Life though XD

DRAGONS DRAGONS DRAGONS

By doing this I also hope to LD more and gain better control as well as help you guys!

To share a dream, shouldn't we know what the person looks like, think of a place and go to it in a dream?

1) GMT (live in London) not sure what zone
2) Frequency - recall dreams nearly every day,low level of lucidity most time
3) dream control low most in most of my dreams
4) normally dreams tend to seem quite quick 5 minutes per dream
5) Yes i had a shared dream
6) yes I "believe" in my own expereience
7) as dreamer but also admin
8) happy to check a few journals as as i log my own dreams i'm logging about 2 or 3 a week at the moment
8) No dream partner at present

Originally posted by Kyhaar
Is there anybody who has signed up that close to my timezone? *

Ontario is EST right?

Ascleapius lives in Toronto.

Alca lives in Montreal

Jimvano has agreed to be my partner

The experiment has been revived! Perhaps we should call it "Project Lazarus" or something.

It looks like we have a fair number volunteers, at least enough to start the experiment. Now it's time to pair people up. I appreciate those of you who have already found a partner. For those interested in participating in this experiment as LDers and who don't yet have a partner, please look through the other posted, completed questionnaires. Find someone with whom you are interested in partnering. It can be someone you know or someone you don't know, but once you partner up, record how well you know your partner at the beginning of the experiment - this could be an important variable. Ideally, you should choose someone who lives in a time zone near yours in order to best attempt to synchronize your sleep schedules and REM periods. Don't worry if the first person you choose is incompatible with you or already in a pair - just find someone else and PM them. Keep trying until you find a partner. Once you have a partner, one of you needs to post in the Organization for the Shared Dreaming Experiment thread so that we can keep track of how many pairs we have. That thread is stickied, so it isn't going anywhere.

Once we've got people paired up, we can discuss how best to record the dreams. The validity of this experiment is going to depend upon the honesty and integrity of the participants, because there is no way that we can prevent you from communicating w/ your partner. In order for this experiment to be meaningful at all, you must not communicate the details of your dream with your partner until you have both recorded your personal experiences (and preferably, not even then). We could probably do this with the dream journals on this site, but that might make it just a bit too tempting to look at your partner's journal before recording in your own journal. For the same reasons that crime investigators do not want witnesses to the same crime to compare accounts before they can be officially collected, we need the participants in this experiment to agree to abstain from discussing their dreams w/ their partners. For that reason, it might be better to record the dreams in a text file on your PC and then submit the file once the experiment is over. More on exactly how and where we'll record the dreams later, although any suggestions are welcomed.

Depending on the number of dreams recorded, this experiment could continue for 2 weeks to a month before the arduous and tedious (er, I mean, “fascinating and exciting” ) task of data analysis would begin.

So, volunteers, please pair up!

Any questions or comments?

I would suggest two additional pieces for this experiment.

First, each person select a somewhat unusual symbol/object as their symbol. The symbol can then be "transmitted" to the partner and show up in the partner's dreams. This will help us know whether there was a psychic link between the partners. This provides the added benefit that if you don't get something significant with the primary dependent variable (DV), you might find something with the secondary DV. Two chances to win!

Second, while I agree that it is of utmost importance not to discuss the dreams BEFORE both have documented their dreams, I believe it is very important to get feedback, especially when we are working with a partner we have never met or seen. So, I think we should agree that partners document their dreams each night, and only after both are done should the partners share the dream records. Then we can know if we are on the right "track".

We need to record, as accurately as possible, what time the dreams occur.
Four possible time related items to record:
1) time you last saw the clock before falling asleep
2) time at awakening
3) Approximate amount of time between when you woke up and when the dreams occurred. In case other dreams occurred between shared dream and waking.
4) Maintain information about the order in which the dreams occurred, if possible

Originally posted by jimvano
I would suggest two additional pieces for this experiment.
First, each person select a somewhat unusual symbol/object as their symbol. The symbol can then be "transmitted" to the partner and show up in the partner's dreams.

Nice idea! The target symbol will have to be changed each night and known only by one partner, though, so that we don't get erroneous dream correlations caused by fulfilled expectations rather than dream sharing. The symbol should ideally be something simple, too. Any ideas?

Originally posted by jimvano
So, I think we should agree that partners document their dreams each night, and only after both are done should the partners share the dream records. Then we can know if we are on the right "track".

That's a good point about the LDers requiring feedback. The reason I didn't want partners communicating their dreams is that often people have recurring themes which the partners could recognize from reading each other’s dream records. Once that idea of "Oh, my partner tends to dream about such-and-such" gets stuck in the mind of one partner, such-and-such could appear in that person's dream not because of some connection w/ their partner, but again out of expectation fulfillment. However, that won’t be a problem if the partners don’t have strong recurring dream themes, so perhaps the benefit of feedback will outweigh the potential confounds introduced. You’re a psychologist, aren’t you? You’ll know better than I which effect will likely be strongest. What do you think?

I think I’m trying too hard to sure up all of the details of this experiment to make it more scientifically valid when in fact the most important requirement – non communication between partners – cannot even be assured. Eh, it’s habit, I suppose.

Originally posted by jimvano
We need to record, as accurately as possible, what time the dreams occur.
Four possible time related items to record:
1) time you last saw the clock before falling asleep
2) time at awakening
3) Approximate amount of time between when you woke up and when the dreams occurred. In case other dreams occurred between shared dream and waking.
4) Maintain information about the order in which the dreams occurred, if possible

Sounds good. I think #3 might be tricky, though. I usually remember the sequence in which my dreams occur, but time is so subjective in dreams that getting an accurate measure might not be reliably accurate.

Lets try to keep ideas and theories in the main page of this experiment. Shared lucids.

This sign up sheet will be much more understandable and factual.

1. Time - Central
2. Freq.LD - Few times a week at the most
3. LD Control - Depends on the type of lucid dream it is.
4. How long LD - anywhere to seconds to maybe a half hour.
5. Shared dream experience - Maybe
6. Do you believe - True believer!
7. LDer
8. 5 nights a week at the most
9. I dont mind who my partner is. Someone can assign me one or someone who is interested can PM me.

1. Time zone (let's go with "GMT- _6__ hours CST". You can convert your time zone to GMT here)
2. Frequency with which your lucid dream. 1 every 2 weeks
3. Level of control you usually have in a lucid dream. 25-100% control of my own body. 25% of my surroundings.

4. How long your lucid dreams usually last (This could be tricky, but let's go with perceived dream time) 1 - 5 mins
5. Have you ever had what you consider to be a shared dream experience? Someone once said they dreamed of me and I vaugely remember experiencing it.

6. Do you believe that shared dreaming is possible? (i.e. are you a non-believer, skeptic, or true believer?) true believer
7. How would you like to be involved with this experiment-- 3rd party/administrative or LDer? LDer if possible, though I have many, many goals.
8. If you would like to be an LDer, how many nights per week do you anticipate being able to work on this experiment? If you would like to be a third party who compares the dream journals of the participants, how many minutes or hours per day do you anticipate being able to work on the experiment? I probably need to be here at least 2 weeks before I can begin a journal. I have decent dream recall 1-2 / night.
In my LD's I would intermingle the experimentation with my own goals, like finding a certain character.

9. If you want to be an LDer, do you already have a dream partner with whom you are comfortable, is there someone who's already signed up with whom you'd like to partner, or would you like to be assigned a partner? No. I would be delighted to sign up when I meet the tenure requirement.

1. Time zone - gmt +1 (italy)
2. Frequency - irregular, anyway some a month
3. Level of control - quite decent
4. perceived dream time - something like ten minutes (usually less)
5. shared dream experience? yes but open to other rational explaination
6. Do you believe ? almost believer
7. How would you like to be involved with this experiment-- dreamer, third part if needed but unsure for the language question
8. able to work on the experiment? for the nights really don't know, as third part quite enough, i'm actually unemployed
9. already have a dream partner ? no... too little europeans

Okay, I posted on the original board before I saw this.

I am not a good lucid dreamer nor am I a good dream recaller, but I am interested in planning/analyzing the experiment. Just tell me what I need to know and what has been done so far and I'll get on it.

It seems that this experiment hasn't been very active recently, so as soon as someone in charge sees this, PM me.

I know...


Doesn't that make you frustrated? When I've sent my "partner" at least 3 PMS but he hasn't answered me!

1.Eastern timezone.
2.2 - 4 nights a week.
3.Low - Above average control.
4.5 - 12 minutes. (12 being ultimate maximum.)
5.Yes. (First post in dream journal.)
6.I am a true-believer.
7.I would like to be an LDer.
8.I would be able to work on this experiment 4 - 7 nights a week.
9. There may be someone,I will edit if I find someone. (EDIT : I have PMed Ascleapius,asking Him/Her if they would be my partner. I am currently waiting for an answer.)(EDIT Again : Ascleapius has declined my offer,if you wish to be my partner,feel free to PM me,I will also ask one more person If they decline please assign me a partner.)

Eligos

Originally Posted by Eligos

1.Eastern timezone.
2.2 - 4 nights a week.
3.Low - Above average control.
4.5 - 12 minutes. (12 being ultimate maximum.)
5.Yes. (First post in dream journal.)
6.I am a true-believer.
7.I would like to be an LDer.
8.I would be able to work on this experiment 4 - 7 nights a week.
9. There may be someone,I will edit if I find someone. (EDIT : I have PMed Ascleapius,asking Him/Her if they would be my partner. I am currently waiting for an answer.)(EDIT Again : Ascleapius has declined my offer,if you wish to be my partner,feel free to PM me,I will also ask one more person If they decline please assign me a partner.)

Eligos
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My partner has ignored me. I'll glady be your partner. I have actually experience (non lucid) a Shared Dream. It was SO COOl!
I am EST (-4 GST) as well, so that would be cool.

Originally Posted by Kyhaar

My partner has ignored me.
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Here is my New (and revised) card, for anybody who cares to be my partner again.

1. Time zone= GST -4 (EST Canada)
2. LD Frequency- Rarely
3. Level of control- Unknown
4. How long your lucid dreams usually last- Unknown
5. Ever had a SD Experience? YES I HAVE!!! Very recently (i.e Wednesday October 11th)
6. Do you believe that SD is possible? Of course- I have experienced it!
7. LDer. This will alsdo help improve my LD ability.
8. I can work any night I can get 8 or more hours of sleep.
9. I will require a dream partner. Preferably in my timezone, who will PM me regularly, and will be honest in their dreams.

Oh,I recently had another LD. Giving a ballpark guess... The dream lasted a good 30 minutes,max.

Maybe I shouldn't have went after that chick...

Eligos

Who is in charge of this experiment anyways? No activity has been happening at all. Are we supposed to design the experiment ourselves?