Lucid Aid Trials?

[lucidspark64]

I was wondering if I can peform experiments on this site about lucid aids. I was thinking in the research forums instead of lucid aids because I want to gather information and share results. I don't plan on going all out, it's more of practice and fun while obtaining information about the aid. The only real problem is, is that the aid I want to test already has some credability. I have tried it before and it has gaven me great results in terms of vividness, recall, I believe increased REM sleep. I wouldn't mind having people participate in a I'm thinking trial of about 3-4 weeks of testing this. Another problem is that, I don't know how to perform a Control online. My experiemnt will require people to obtain the lucid-aid on their own and so how can they get a placebo which would be good for the Control. Maybe I'll figure something out. Remember, I'm thinking just for fun and practice. I'm not taking it too seriously, but if I get good results, it can still be credable I believe.

[lucidspark64]

anyone... anyone?

[cloud9wannablucid]

I don't quite understand what you're talking about, but I would like to participate in something that may increase my chances of being lucid again.

[dreamingofdreaming]

Whats the aid?

[lucidspark64]

i was thinking of keeping it a secret until then so that noone takes my idea but oh well. fish oil

[rampage]

I've recently started taking fish oil; cod liver oil to be precise before I go to bed for the sake of my health and can't say that it has had any effect on my lucid deaming or recall etc.

[lucidspark64]

oh well you know what, omega3 fish oil had fucken rocked my dream world. havent got lucid off of it but i sure as hell had longer more vivid dreams i tell you that much.

[Shift]

As far as making sure it's blind, what you could do is have people get those pill capsules from the store. Then, fill half of the capsules with the aid, the other half with a control (you'd have to find out a control that isn't going to be causing any changes, which will require a bit of research). Each could be marked somehow, and at trial times the participant would close their eyes, reach into a cup, and choose one- not knowing which it was. You'd have to probably have each participant have a buddy who was keeping track for them of which pill they were taking. Then, at the end of the experiment, pill type could be matched up to dream journal entries, and sent to you.

[Sentaku]

You could fill the capsules with water, I guess

[lucidspark64]

Oh yeah good idea shift. It's probably going to be hard, yeah to find a control that looks just like the actual fish oil. I guess i will have to look into it. btw sentaku, it's an online experiment which would require my participants to go out and by the pill.

[Shift]

You could try extra virgin olive oil or veggie oil, although I'm not sure people want to take capsules of that or what any implications might be on your results. I don't have a lot of experience with fish oil, but isn't that about the same consistency? The trick is finding a way to make it truly blind to the participant. For people who don't want to talk about lucid dreaming with family members, they could try enlisting the aid of one by saying it's for a school project or something.

[detroitLions1970]

You could try extra virgin olive oil or veggie oil, although I'm not sure people want to take capsules of that or what any implications might be on your results. I don't have a lot of experience with fish oil, but isn't that about the same consistency? The trick is finding a way to make it truly blind to the participant. For people who don't want to talk about lucid dreaming with family members, they could try enlisting the aid of one by saying it's for a school project or something. I was just thinking only minutes ago, when I was taking a fish oil EPA/DHA capsule how much golden syrup looks like fish oil! So, really, the end result would be exactly like a sugar pill, as golden syrup is inverted, refined sugar (Wikipedia). The only implications I could think of is if the syrup leaked from the capsule and the subject could taste it (however its thick form would probably keep it in the capsule even if there was a leak), or if it was too amber coloured - you could simply mix a little bit of water in and dilute it. Liquid sugar pills. Just a suggestion, hope it helps.

[Shift]

Hmm, sounds like a possibility. I'll have to check out some fish oil and see what it's like to help more. You can at least add sugar to the fish oil, I bet?

[lucidspark64]

Alright thanks guys. I'll have to look into those. I think if they look similar, and the person isnt familiar with either capsules (which can't be guarenteed) then I wouldn't think there would be any problems.