Thread: Lucid/shared dreams

Cool. So, you have EEG equipment. It must be 'coincidence' that I have met you because outside of hypnotherapy; the other thing I will eventually be certified in is biofeedback. I am particularly interested in EEG, of course. How do you use the output to synchronize the other person's brainwaves? Once it comes out... where does it go and how does it affect the other person. One might use hypnotherapy and watch for the waves to synch via the equipment. This is exiting! Even though we are not in close physical proximity, if we could share ideas and experimental design and such we could collaborate efforts. I will have EEG equipment. All of any funds that I bring with hypnotherapy go back into hypnotherapy and biofeedback training, equipment, etc.

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Ummm... that may have been a bit presumptuous. I will not have equipment for a time and the training and certification will not come for a while either. I'm so exited about this and have spent so much of my life thinking about it that I may have got ahead of myself. There is a biofeedback technician at the Center that I work at but he would think I was insane...lol. Good luck and let me know if there is a way we can work together. I will probably design a hypnosis script to use for this or similar purposes. I am in grad school right now, doing hypnotherapy, raising a family, and working a full-time job (one of the most stressful jobs there is) but this is certainly my passion. Sort of my 'life mission', I think

Originally Posted by kelisi

I did some work on this when I was in the UK - if you feed the output of an EEG into a PLL (phase-locked loop) to smooth out the noise fluctuations, you can use the output of this to synchronise another persons' brainwaves. I was using an IR strobe, but I think TMS might be better - direct electric [current] stimulation struck me as being a bit risky. I wasn't able to do enough on this to say that it definitely 'enables' shared dreams, though it seemed to work - I was looking at ways of doing this remotely, but unfortunately circumstances and [lack of] finances prevented me from going any further. I think a remote setup would be nescessary as people (who might like to participate) are not generally in the same location.

My EEG amplifier was a 'home brew' - a commercial machine would be far too expensive. It's not too difficult to design if you're an [electronic] engineer, the main issue is safety as it must be totally isolated from any mains powered equipment - this also helps with noise rejection as the signals are very small.

I like the idea of using hypnosis to achieve LD/SD, I was wondering if would be possible to combine this with biofeedback, i.e. achieve a hypnotic state in a feedback loop with a computer - this would need to play wav files, or flash images/messages on a screen to induce a hypnotic state - since it isn't really possible for all the people participating in such an experiment to each have a [human] hypnotherapist with them. Anyone done anything along these lines? Is inducing a hypnotic state possible without a human hypnotherapist?

Yes, it's possible. I would have to take out a few of the elements which I feel is important to the research... BUT, it would increase the population participating and give more data.