Thread: Let's discuss evolution from a scientific perspective -not for Creationist, anti-scientific argument

I'm interested by the fact that (speaking in broad generalities) many conservatives tend to be fundamentalist Christians, and some are Creationists, and while most liberals adhere strongly to evolution and climate change and to support science in general, many of them are into really esoteric spiritual beliefs and things like solipsism. You know, psychic powers, dreams are really other worlds we visit, that kind of stuff. Of course both groups also have plenty of level headed people free of anti-rational belief systems. Apparently libertarians tend to largely believe that there is an objective reality and that we are capable of perceiving it pretty much as it really is, with of course some wiggle room for various distortions here and there. I suspect a lot of moderates fall into that camp as well.

This gets interesting when you add in the general types of government each group favors (again, totally broad generalities of course) - the hardcore religious fanatics tend to want fascistic governments that push traditionalism, the (radical) leftists tend to want socialism and communism (hippie communes etc) which historically always result in fascistic welfare police states based on taking from the wealthy to give to the poor. The ones who don't fall into either wing or subscribe to anti-rational belief systems tend to favor small government and freedom.

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

the (radical) leftists tend to want socialism and communism (hippie communes etc) which historically always result in fascistic welfare police states based on taking from the wealthy to give to the poor. The ones who don't fall into either wing or subscribe to anti-rational belief systems tend to favor small government and freedom.

I agree with much you say but a challenge that I have not seen libertarians answer to is the example of European countries like the Netherlands with socialist government policies yet have better individual freedoms and standards of living then pretty much the rest of the world. Also people like Glenn Beck fall under the wings of libertarianism yet to call him a rationalist would be laughable.