Super Hero Complex

**Universal Mind** · 12-30-2006 05:03 AM

Originally Posted by juroara

ahem

a question for any and all people here. While we can bash what people believe in all day long, what about what human experience? At what point is the human experience invalid and who decides when the human experience is invalid?

I bring this up because millions of people have seen spirits, have claimed to speak with their beloved deceased in broad daylight, have claimed to see other super natural beings like angels or demons, and others have claimed to witness miracles or demonic activity.
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You should have seen the shit I saw on salvia divinorum the other night. Some of it is stuff I have seen a lot on that drug (It's legal in Mississippi, so don't get self-righteous.). Most of my body became part of the inanimate matter in the room. But for some reason, the top of my mouth usually remains living, and it is my full identity, except for the part of me that is the rest of reality. Because reality itself, the entirety of which was in my living room, was spinning into nonexistence, a tunnel was formed. The tunnel was brought about by myself and reality itself, which were almost exactly the same thing, so that Sesame Street's Bert (several of them) could walk through to the playground. But Maria said I wasn't playing fairly.

What I experienced was a hallucination. Hallucinations happen. If you don't believe me, smoke some salvia and see for yourself. Neurological imbalances not brought on by drugs can also cause hallucinations. Science has very well supported theories regarding the neurological bases of hallucinations. However, science does not have well supported theories that spirits exist. So when people claim to have seen spirits, science suggests most strongly by far that they were hallucinating or are lying. False Memory Syndrome is also a likely possibility.

Now I have to levitate to my basement. Jesus is waiting on me to bring the marshmallows.

**Neruo** · 12-31-2006 06:21 PM

Actually the 'fact' that Thousands of Christians see jesus or god and Thousands of Muslims see Allah or moses is more an argument Against (the specific Christian or Muslim) god existing then an argument For their God existing.

**Indecent Exposure** · 12-31-2006 06:36 PM

I'd have to agree there

Imran

**MoD** · 03-30-2007 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Neruo

Actually the 'fact' that Thousands of Christians see jesus or god and Thousands of Muslims see Allah or moses is more an argument Against (the specific Christian or Muslim) god existing then an argument For their God existing.[/b]

I love your thinking. If I could I would have sex with your thoughts and have many little thoughts like yours!

Many people eg. Christians think that their God is the ultimate. They just dont see that your belief is dependent on where you were born, in what family. Any Christhian reading this.. Heres a question. Would you believe in Jesus and all that if you werent born in a Catholic family.. What if you were born in eg. Africa? Goodbye Jesus.. You being a Christhian is only because of the fact because your parents/community/friends brainwashed you.

It should be concidered that no religion should be taught to a child under 18. At 18, you and only YOU ALONE could decide what you would believe in..

And I hate it when people say that god exists purely because there is no evidence to disprove his existence. Pure ignorance.

**blade5x** · 03-30-2007 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by MoD

I love your thinking. If I could I would have sex with your thoughts and have many little thoughts like yours!

Many people eg. Christians think that their God is the ultimate. They just dont see that your belief is dependent on where you were born, in what family. Any Christhian reading this.. Heres a question. Would you believe in Jesus and all that if you werent born in a Catholic family.. What if you were born in eg. Africa? Goodbye Jesus.. You being a Christhian is only because of the fact because your parents/community/friends brainwashed you.

It should be concidered that no religion should be taught to a child under 18. At 18, you and only YOU ALONE could decide what you would believe in..[/b]

I agree, however, I think that most people - once they hit that age, really do decide for themselves if what they were once told it completely correct.

For example, I was a "brainwashed" kid. At the age of 17-18, I really began to question my beliefs. The current result: I do believe in The Creator, but is the he the Christian God I once believed him to be? Probably not because I cannot give my Creator any specific qualities right now, expect that this Creator, whatever it may be - is responsible for all of existence. Many of my reasons for choosing this belief does not go back to what I was told when I was younger.

And I hate it when people say that god exists purely because there is no evidence to disprove his existence. Pure ignorance.[/b]

What people purely say this? If anyone says this, they are not a true believer. Are you sure you aren't confusing this with agnostics - who reject the belief in God because there is no evidence to prove his existence, however, they are open to the possibility that they may be wrong and that one might actually exist?

**Brilliand** · 03-31-2007 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by MoD

I love your thinking. If I could I would have sex with your thoughts and have many little thoughts like yours!

Many people eg. Christians think that their God is the ultimate. They just dont see that your belief is dependent on where you were born, in what family. Any Christhian reading this.. Heres a question. Would you believe in Jesus and all that if you werent born in a Catholic family.. What if you were born in eg. Africa? Goodbye Jesus.. You being a Christhian is only because of the fact because your parents/community/friends brainwashed you.

It should be concidered that no religion should be taught to a child under 18. At 18, you and only YOU ALONE could decide what you would believe in..

And I hate it when people say that god exists purely because there is no evidence to disprove his existence. Pure ignorance.[/b]

I hear it's much easier to win converts in third-world countries, so yes, I may well have been a Christian if I was born in Africa. There is really no situation that will guarantee that someone won't become a Christian, and no situation that will guarantee that he will. It's just that some situations, such as having Christian parents, make it more likely.

Why 18? Have you considered that it's basically impossible to raise a child without a belief system? I think you were raised atheist, but if you weren't, that just supports my previous point. (That last sentence was more to show what I meant than to support my statement)

**Faken** · 03-31-2007 04:18 AM

Originally Posted by Mark75

NOTE: This doesn't specifically pertain to just religion. In accordance with forum rules I have to post it here because it contains comments about religion. Otherwise I'd have posted it in philosophy.

As a fake psychologist, I've noticed that 99.9999% of people have the need to create the delusion that they, somebody else, or an imagined being is a super hero (compare with the statistic that 99.9999% of people are idiots). This is called "Super Hero Complex", or SHC.

Often this takes the form of religious beliefs which are, of course, blatantly false, so there's no need to go further into that. Other cases see this complex manifest itself as a regular person believing that they have some kind of magical ability or abilities. Precognitive dreams or visions, telekinesis, clairvoyance, seeing spirits or, perhaps stupidest of all, lycanthropy. Yeah, because you really did for real turn into a werewolf that one time. Sure.

You've probably had the misfortune of encountering one of these psychos at some point. If you have, you may have noticed something; That these freaks can only sustain their illusions by grouping together and hiding from real people. In order to continue to cling to their warped version of reality, they must find a place in which all contradictory ideas can be filtered or avoided. They will cluster together with their like-minded kin and work towards brainwashing each other into actually believing their brand of crap. Such places may be clubs, internet sites, churches, etc.

SHC is also known as "insufficient reality syndrome" for the reason that it apparently stems from people's disappointment upon discovering that magic doesn't exist and that they are just another generic human. Their "solution" is to become just another generic psycho and social outcast (but they can't help it, it's the demons that posses them that make them unable to be normal idiots).

Frighteningly, SHC is contagious. Children, idiots and the children of idiots are most prone. Interestingly, it seems that specific types, while able to cause other types, almost exclusively replicate themselves. It appears that SHC is hereditary. Children who's parents were of a given religion will almost always become the religion of their parents if they develop SHC. It is presently unknown how people can become so freaking deluded.

Thankfully, Super Hero complex is curable. There are many treatments available, but the most effective include growing up and realizing what a tool you are. Other treatments are getting slapped straight, or being educated on basic science; these can -- and should -- also be used in conjunction with other treatments.

Symptoms are generally annoying and may include circular logic, gross ignorance to science, poor hygiene, strange rituals, talking to invisible friends (god, allah, jesus, Captain Planet/Crunch etc.), handing out strongly worded pamphlets, end of the world prophecies, capitalizing pronouns, conspiracy "theories", and much, much, much more. If you or a family member has developed SHC, please take away all magic crystals, religious scriptures, Mac's and cases of Dr. Pepper and call 911 immediately.

See also:

"The AI Effect"[/b]

First get some better grammar second "Enjoy Hell"

**♥Mark** · 03-31-2007 04:55 AM

Thanks for the tip and the well-wishes.

**Moonbeam** · 03-31-2007 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by Faken

First get some better grammar second "Enjoy Hell"[/b]

Can't you just feel the love? Jesus would be so proud. If he existed, I mean.

(Who's he quoting? Himself? Get some better punctuation.)

**Neruo** · 03-31-2007 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by MoD

I love your thinking. If I could I would have sex with your thoughts and have many little thoughts like yours![/b]

Hmm, I don't know or I have to take that as a compliment or as a threatening to rape me... I guess It was a compliment, thank you! ^_^

Many people eg. Christians think that their God is the ultimate. They just dont see that your belief is dependent on where you were born, in what family. Any Christhian reading this.. Heres a question. Would you believe in Jesus and all that if you werent born in a Catholic family.. What if you were born in eg. Africa? Goodbye Jesus.. You being a Christhian is only because of the fact because your parents/community/friends brainwashed you.[/b]

Yeah I ask that question too a lot. I agree with you. You can't expect a 10 year old African kid in the jungle to accept or even know about Jesus. Yet if the kid dies, it dies as a 'sinner', a believer in a false god. That means the kid would go to hell if the kid died. And even if it gets old, it still can't be blamed for not believing. The whole 'accept Jesus or go to Hell' nonsense does not fit with how the world work. In by far most cases, your parents religion is your religion. It hardly is a choice.

It should be concidered that no religion should be taught to a child under 18. At 18, you and only YOU ALONE could decide what you would believe in..[/b]

I totally agree with that too. If there is something I dislike it are Christians (elementary) schools that totally indoctrinate children with happy songs about Jesus all day long.

But even at age 18, a person will always be thought certain things from it's surroundings. However, secular schools, that do not advertise nor condone religion and good education would be a great step forward in intellectual freedom / freedom of choice.

And I hate it when people say that god exists purely because there is no evidence to disprove his existence. Pure ignorance.[/b]

Yeah, the Flying Spaghetti monster is the real god, I just don't have proof, but I just know I am right! Everything could exist. That doesn't mean it doesn't, and that Certainly doesn't mean one should pledge all their life to it and let their lives, and other people's lives be run by it.