Thread: If matter cant be created or destroyed, where did all this stuff come from?

You would, by the logic that there is no creator or higher being, believe that humans are the most rational, most wise, and most sensible creatures in the entire universe, would you not? Thats logically what follows, if you dont believe in a creator. Without "empirical evidence" of a creator, and without the fact that we have no "empirical evidence" of any other higher race or species than ourselves, we are the most advanced of anything in the entire universe.

I'd have to say that that is one sad shit story, if humans are actually the highest species in the universe, after all the crap we've pulled throughout our history.

You can't rationally believe something because the alternative is 'sad'... you believe something based on whether it appears to be true or not. That's what I do anyway.

And no, I don't believe that humans are the most advanced species in the universe. We're probably the most intelligent on Earth with regards to cognitive abilities, but due to the vast number of planets out there (10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars are visible alone...) it's seems like a bit of a leap to assume that there are no other organisms out there more advanced than us, especially considering we don't progress in parallel; they could have been around for billions of years longer. Just look at how much progress we've made in the last 100.

Originally Posted by Xei

You can't rationally believe something because the alternative is 'sad'... you believe something based on whether it appears to be true or not. That's what I do anyway.

And no, I don't believe that humans are the most advanced species in the universe. We're probably the most intelligent on Earth with regards to cognitive abilities, but due to the vast number of planets out there (10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars are visible alone...) it's seems like a bit of a leap to assume that there are no other organisms out there more advanced than us, especially considering we don't progress in parallel; they could have been around for billions of years longer. Just look at how much progress we've made in the last 100.

Just imagine us today if we did not have the ice age.