Thread: If matter cant be created or destroyed, where did all this stuff come from?

You guys are right it makes absolutely no sense.

Originally Posted by Photolysis

I believe people should be allowed to hold whatever beliefs they want, as long as they don't impact on others*, and they have no right to force them on others

I agree, but...
*Sigh*, since it's obvious that this discussion is going nowhere (and has ceased to become a discussion, but has degenerated into a petty squabble), why don't we agree to disagree; I can go on with my life, letting people believe and practice as they wish, and still respect them as human beings (yes, everyone is entitled to, at the very least, a small degree of respect), and you can go on doing...whatever it is you do...

Originally Posted by Photolysis

I don't go preach or knock...I'm just doing what you are: "Posting my opinions on a small corner of the Internet in a topic discussing such issues (i.e. which invites such opinions) which no one is forced to read in any way is not doing anything."

Except you're criticizing me for doing so under the guise of not allowing people to "live and let live", which is laughable. I'm not criticizing you for this, that's the difference. One of us is being a hypocrite, and it isn't me.

Umm...I wasn't criticizing you for "preaching and knocking", I didn't even say you were doing any of this. I was expressing my belief that you shouldn't label others as "stupid" because they have a spiritual belief that is not based on evidence. I didn't say that you had to change, I was simply disagreeing...based on my beliefs, which you seem so adamant to try and shoot down.

All I've been trying to say is that people with spiritual beliefs are not inferior to those individuals who choose to live a secular life. For whatever reason, this has been a hard concept to grasp for people on both sides of the spectrum.
Solution: (going back to photolysis’s quote) people with religious/spiritual beliefs need to just let the secular community believe what they believe, and the secular community needs to let the spiritual community be as well. Persons within one sphere of beliefs can coexist with people in the other sphere.

Everything WAS created, and it CAN be destroyed. Everything is possible. This law is bullshit... and it has no proof at all. Just because we can't totallty destoy matter with our technology on this planet, doesn't mean it's impossible.

We destroy matter in nuclear reactions

It turns into energy which is released as heat, electromagnetic and compression waves 8D

...But how does energy become matter?

actually roxxor, this question might be a part of the answer. quantum physics might get to this point soon. expecially finding out what these string IN energy are :S

tbh we don't really 'turn matter into energy' in nuclear reactions... all of the particles are still there. It's just that when they decrease their total potential energy (via rearrangement of the forces between particles, namely electromagnetic and strong), the particles weigh less.

You can make energy become matter too... you can fire two particles at each other and sometimes the kinetic energy is converted to the mass of new particles.

Originally Posted by A Roxxor

It turns into energy which is released as heat, electromagnetic and compression waves 8D

...But how does energy become matter?

An example:

When the protons are accelerated to near light-speed in the Large Hadron Collider there is a moment of transition. When the energy added to the particle can't add to velocity, it has to add to the mass. Matter is created from energy.

The protons can't get faster, so they get heavier. In the last stage the protons is 7000 times heavier than at rest. That is

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