Thread: marijuana and dreaming

i think it probably interfers with dreaming a little, but tthere were many times i went to bed really high and was sure i had dreams, but just coudn't remember. Also, when i was smoking daily, i trained my memory to be less affected by the weed, so my dreams (or memory of them really picked up). I did notice that when i cut back on weed after frequent use, dreams certainly seem much more vivid than normal, and sleep paralysis happens more often.

Originally Posted by kogatojr

WRONG It's a hullucinogen. THC affect people differnt, a user used to it acts as a depressent, but it's actualy a hullucinogen.

Its not a depressant nor a hallucinogen. THC affects everybody differently as you stated, and does not cause persistent effects across the board.

When it binds to the cannabinoid receptors, each person reacts differently.
Essentially, there is a filter between your subconscious and conscious thought... and marijuana takes the filter away. So your subconscious leaks into your conscious.

whenever i smoke n toke before bed i can more easily detach myself from my physical state

Originally Posted by moe007

Essentially, there is a filter between your subconscious and conscious thought... and marijuana takes the filter away. So your subconscious leaks into your conscious.

Really? I've never heard that before.

If I smoke in moderation, I find that the dreams I have are really fucking random when I go to sleep stoned. Usually there's some kind of a storyline to my dreams, but when I'm baked it's just random shit sometimes. Also sometimes when I've been practicing with my band and I get really high and stay up really late, I'll have dreams with no visuals, only sound. Usually it will just be songs we play or other music I've listened to but I remember some weird ass noises one night.

But smoking weed is different for every person every time(unless you smoke all day every day, then it gets kinda monotonous). I don't think we're gonna get anywhere trying to classify what it does. We could probably learn a little more if we stick with real life experiences. Has anyone ever used weed to induce lucids, there was a thread with an idea on how to do it here a while back, but it never worked for me. I'd like to try some stuff with combining sleep deprivation and small amounts of pot, but I want to get my tolerance down first. Damn, now I wanna smoke.

I had to quit smoking pot to get into lucid dreaming. it was hard at first because it was such a habit after daily smoking for 15 years. But I haven't smoked for over a year now and I remember 7-8 dreams a night and have at least four lucid dreams a week. But when I smoked, I didn't remember 1 dream.
I don't think we are being close minded, i think we are just stating our ecperience. There is no judgement against marijuana except that it seems to inhibit dreaming and mental clarity. Nobody is saying that it is bad for you, or not fun, or not medicinal. Just it is not the greatest match for lucid dreaming.

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

I had to quit smoking pot to get into lucid dreaming. it was hard at first because it was such a habit after daily smoking for 15 years. But I haven't smoked for over a year now and I remember 7-8 dreams a night and have at least four lucid dreams a week. But when I smoked, I didn't remember 1 dream.
I don't think we are being close minded, i think we are just stating our ecperience. There is no judgement against marijuana except that it seems to inhibit dreaming and mental clarity. Nobody is saying that it is bad for you, or not fun, or not medicinal. Just it is not the greatest match for lucid dreaming.

He said what we were all thinking, well he said what i was thinking.

Originally Posted by Tweek

If you knew anything about weed you would know there's sativa and indica. Cannabis Sativa is a stimulant and indica is a depressant.
It just effects short term memory therefor you probably forget your dreams somewhere in the transition of waking up.

go learn something about it.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...14414651731007

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis.shtml

Well said but you can't forget the hybrids...

Originally Posted by Rusty Shackleford

Weed isn't an hallucinogen lol. Unless it is laced with PCP or something then it will not cause you to hallucinate.

Hallucinating is seeing things that aren't really there... as to where vision impairment is your perspective has just become distorted. seeing colored dots would fall under vision impairment. You can stare at a tv screen for a minute then blink your eyes and see colored dots and shit like that.

Trust me, I've hallucinated on weed. And by hallucinated I mean seen and heard things that weren't actually there. Maybe you can write off my "hallucinations" as impaired vision, but to me, seeing colorful dots and shapes is hallucination because it is seeing something that is not really there. As far as auditory hallucinations, I know for a fact weed can give you that because its something that has happened to me on several occasions.

Originally Posted by GreyDecay

Trust me, I've hallucinated on weed. And by hallucinated I mean seen and heard things that weren't actually there. Maybe you can write off my "hallucinations" as impaired vision, but to me, seeing colorful dots and shapes is hallucination because it is seeing something that is not really there. As far as auditory hallucinations, I know for a fact weed can give you that because its something that has happened to me on several occasions.

That it makes you hallucinate doesn't mean it's a hallucinogen. It means you hallucinate on THC. But as long as it doesn't make most people hallucinate it's not a hallucinogen. I hallucinate on milk. Does that make it a hallucinogen? No, because it doesn't make everyone hallucinate. It's advised to not use marijuana when you have mental diseases because it can make them worse. I'm not saying you have a mental disease but I think it is quite possible that because of the marijuana some things that are already there but otherwise unnoticed are intensified so that you start hallucinating.

I'm not trying to offend you or anything.

When I hallucinate it's creating reality regardless of whether or not you see it matters.

Originally Posted by Vranna

That it makes you hallucinate doesn't mean it's a hallucinogen. It means you hallucinate on THC.

I'm not saying you have a mental disease but I think it is quite possible that because of the marijuana some things that are already there but otherwise unnoticed are intensified so that you start hallucinating.

I'm not trying to offend you or anything.

Oh I'm not offended at all. I don't have a mental disease though, as far as I know. And I have many friends who've claimed they hallucinate when they smoke dank also. I've always been told marijuana is a hallucinogen, mostly by Health teachers and D.A.R.E. Officers. I never placed much stock in anything they said though, so I'll keep an open mind to other classifications.

Here's a quote from a webiste I found, for what its worth:
"Marijuana and hashish, two substances derived from the hemp plant (Cannabis sativa), are also considered natural hallucinogens, although their potency (power) is very low when compared to others. Marijuana (also called grass, pot, tea, weed, or reefer), a green herb from the flower of the hemp plant, is considered a mild hallucinogen."

http://www.discoveriesinmedicine.com...ucinogens.html

ive heard that weed depravation can cause u to dream better so lucidity is always a winner

Originally Posted by Vranna

That it makes you hallucinate doesn't mean it's a hallucinogen. It means you hallucinate on THC. But as long as it doesn't make most people hallucinate it's not a hallucinogen. I hallucinate on milk. Does that make it a hallucinogen? No, because it doesn't make everyone hallucinate. It's advised to not use marijuana when you have mental diseases because it can make them worse. I'm not saying you have a mental disease but I think it is quite possible that because of the marijuana some things that are already there but otherwise unnoticed are intensified so that you start hallucinating.

I'm not trying to offend you or anything.

I am guessing you are not a regular toker, because if you were you would know that marijuana CAN infact cause mild hallucinations, if you look it up, it is classified as a mild hallucinogen. Everyone I know that smokes, including myself has had a strain that has caused us to have these mild affects, now I have never heard of any bud making people trip like shrooms or anything, but it can intensify hypnagogic like images even with the eyes open. It is impossible to mistake weed for a depressant if you smoke it on a daily basis, and I have no mental illnes either lol...

Originally Posted by kogatojr

WRONG It's a hullucinogen. THC affect people differnt, a user used to it acts as a depressent, but it's actualy a hullucinogen.

It exhibits properties of an intoxicant, stimulant (heart rate), depressant, and psychadelic.

I've had those moments too, at least on one occasion when I recall a somewhat mild auditory hallucination, but you've gotta smoke a lot of strong bud to get those effects at all. Some strains as well won't do it at all.