REM without sleep.

[Solarflare]

sometimes when i close my eyes ( i think only if i do it lightly) i experence REM without the sleep. Is this normal? I have only seen this happen once in the car on a really bright day.

[zebrah]

That is just the way you are holding your eyes.

[Solarflare]

okay thanks

[dreamcatcher81]

I believe your describing remote viewing where you close your eyes and you immediately see a dream environment or person infront of you clear as day. This is also common amongst astral projectors in the sense that they skip non rem and go directly into a rem dream state. Which usually leads to vivid lucid dream like experiences. namaste.

[wana]

i have done this already but i think its hh because i only remember waking up minutes after

[nina]

sometimes when i close my eyes ( i think only if i do it lightly) i experence REM without the sleep. Is this normal? I have only seen this happen once in the car on a really bright day. Are you just saying that you experience rapid eye movement...like your eyeballs or eyelids fluttering? Or you actually enter a dream state? This post is confusing, and the responses are even more so. If it's just fast eye movement...check out the link below. You never mentioned entering a dream, but typically when we talk about REM, especially here, it is in relation to REM sleep (dreaming). Saccade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Solarflare]

Yes, i do believe i am experiencing Saccade, and too clarify, sometimes when i close my eyes, they move Rapidly, hence, i said REM no dream scene of Hypnogogic imagery.

[nina]

Also, check out: Smooth pursuit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Which helps to understand why you experienced this after closing your eyes in a moving vehicle. You had probably been looking out the window, and your eyeballs doing the back and forth catch up motion to follow the scenery.

[ninja9578]

Yeah, it's just your eyes vibrating, it's not REM. It is possible to get to REM while awake, they are called micronaps, but usually only happen with sleep disorders.