Thread: Technology Just Makes Shit Worse

Hunter-gatherer societies are superior to post-agricultural societies in many ways (lack of war and famine, less environmental damage, much more free time, fewer human rights abuses, lack of animal exploitation, etc etc, every bad thing can be traced back to the development of agriculture.). If I had to choose, I would choose the hunter-gatherer, in theory. However I don't think there is any going back. And now that we know what we would be missing, life around the campfire would be pretty boring. But I agree that the technology that begain with the development of agriculture has caused a lot of damage.

Delta-9-THC, you are right that the life-span of the hunter-gatherer is comparable to that of modern humans. We are just now getting back what we lost with the advent of agriculture which lead to over-crowding and more infectious disease, poor nutrition and more chronic disease, war, crime, etc. which took their toll on longevity. And probably the lives of the aboriginals seemed longer because actually it takes a lot fewer hours to support yourself under those circumstances, so that meant a lot more spare time. But then again....what would you spend the time doing? (Well we could share our dreams in detail LOL they probably did a lot of that). If you didn't know about reading and stuff, it might not matter; but now that we do, it would get kind of boring.

I think I am starting to repeat myself. Anyway, interesting subject to think about.

I love when people do this. They just make me feel so much better about myself, you know?

Originally Posted by mindule

I love when people do this. They just make me feel so much better about myself, you know?
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No, I have no idea what you are talking about. When who does what?

No we've made the world such a simpler way to live. I mean, come on! Its only 16 years of school that we need to go through to be able to live in this world as opposed to none! So much better

But i'd never want to go back to the stone age. *hugs computer*

it doesn't seem right debating anarcho-primitivism over the internet....

oh, but it feels so good....

Originally Posted by ;369650

it doesn't seem right debating anarcho-primitivism over the internet....
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Yeah, hows that for irony?

Ok I'll re-open but keep it going on track.

Originally Posted by NeAvO

Ok I'll re-open but keep it going on track.
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Thank you NeAvO. *Hands NeAvO his favorite whip*

Originally Posted by ExoByte

Yeah, hows that for irony?
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look up the word irony, please.

I think you're the one who didn't get it, Artelis.

What Exobyte said made sense to me.

Hey.. Maybe I'm mixed up too, but from what I understand, using a high tech device to talk trash about technology does seem pretty ironic... at least the way I understand it.

*shrug*

learn to suck less, please. Look up the word, really. I'm not kidding on this one, folks.

No, I used the word correctly. He basically said its being debated wether technology sucks, on an advanced form of technology. That is a form of irony.

A bunch of idiots dancing on a plane to a song made famous by a band that died in a plane crash
Teacher's. People going to school, just so they can go back to school
Using advanced technology to trash talk advanced technology

Those are all ironic statements.

Originally Posted by Artelis

look up the word irony, please.
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artelis is a comedian

Originally Posted by Artelis

learn to suck less, please. Look up the word, really. I'm not kidding on this one, folks.
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Thank you for the example. I understand the word better now.

Originally Posted by arby

Thank you for the example. I understand the word better now.
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ROFL!! I GET IT!! LOL!!


Seriously, Artelis, I'm not trying to dog on you or sound like a bitch. I promise. Maybe there's something I'm missing.. But I do believe the original statement made sense.

*worries*

Ok, I'm going to type very slowly to get my point across.

There are TWO types of irony.

1) Situational irony - An unexpected end to a given situation - a famous trumpet player being killed by being smashed in the face by a trumpet.

2) Written irony - SAME MEANING AS SARDONIC - saying one thing and meaning another - I REALLY love this thread. These people are oh so smart.

Saying technology is terrible on an Internet forum - Just plain stupid. NOT IRONIC! Get over it.

Saying one thing and meaning another isn't irony...

i·ro·ny1 /ˈaɪrəni, ˈaɪər-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ahy-ruh-nee, ahy-er-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -nies. 1. the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend.
2. Literature. a. a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated.
b. (esp. in contemporary writing) a manner of organizing a work so as to give full expression to contradictory or complementary impulses, attitudes, etc., esp. as a means of indicating detachment from a subject, theme, or emotion.

3. Socratic irony.
4. dramatic irony. (In a play when the audience knows something the characters dont)
5. an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.
6. the incongruity of this.
7. an objectively sardonic style of speech or writing.
8. an objectively or humorously sardonic utterance, disposition, quality, etc.


The bolded fits. Insulting advanced technology using advanced technology, fits definition #5.

Originally Posted by delta

everybody is better off with primitive ways of life and the animals are a good example of this and even god would agree with me on that one

just think of it
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then throw your computer away and turn the lights off. Dont use natural gas heaters or electric ones. Chop your wood with an ax that you made from stone. Build you house out of raw materials. Leave your house in hte middle of the night to use the bathroom. Don't teach your kids to read and throw away your books f
Forage through the tundra for food. Then you'll set us all a good example I guess.
Just think how much you depend on technology.

Originally Posted by delta

hey authority, your doing what police do, and I suggest you stop because your gonna bring out the evil in me

if u don't want me to break the rules then don't try to make me break them
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you are suggesting that you are worse than him by that statement.

Originally Posted by delta

again, misunderstanding, when I say I remain true to my land im not talking about ownership, I mean that I would rather live here than go elsewhere.

Imran, you guys have your own country, so don't fret, but what do we got??

answer: reserves with high suicide and poverty
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We are born of earth and the "land" belongs to us all. It is our stewardship.

Originally Posted by delta

Imran I cant understand you half the time, I can understand and tell you why you don't hate the blacks, it's because what happened is no longer happening, you know? but with us, it will continue until they decide to kill us one day or finally decide to leave us alone and go mess with some other race. I don't hate white people I simply dislike them, hate is too powerful of a word to describe me.
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Um...you act like it. If you listen to yourself you'll see that your what you are complaining about.

Originally Posted by delta

if u wanna label me as a racist, then ill be one, but only toward you

if ur cool with me, im cool with you, regardless of differences
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Your acting like a raciest. who likes to use technology.

I think your people need help, in a good way. Maybe technology can help you.

What the fuck ever guys

Why are you even wasting your time on this

Why do dogs lick their workplace-acceptable-euphanism for testicals?

Originally Posted by ExoByte

Saying one thing and meaning another isn't irony...

i·ro·ny1 /ˈaɪrəni, ˈaɪər-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ahy-ruh-nee, ahy-er-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -nies. 1. the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend.
2. Literature. a. a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated.
b. (esp. in contemporary writing) a manner of organizing a work so as to give full expression to contradictory or complementary impulses, attitudes, etc., esp. as a means of indicating detachment from a subject, theme, or emotion.

3. Socratic irony.
4. dramatic irony. (In a play when the audience knows something the characters dont)
5. an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.
6. the incongruity of this.
7. an objectively sardonic style of speech or writing.
8. an objectively or humorously sardonic utterance, disposition, quality, etc.
The bolded fits. Insulting advanced technology using advanced technology, fits definition #5.
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Does NOT fit. Take a grammar class and learn to comprehend. Then stop breathing and jump off a cliff. There is no outcome of events that fit this. The only outcome of events was a post on the Internet. I'm pretty sure that he was very much expecting the post to be made on the Internet as he clicked the add thread button. Seriously, do you even think before posting?

Originally Posted by ExoByte

Why do dogs lick their workplace-acceptable-euphanism for testicals?
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I don't know, they like the taste?

Originally Posted by Artelis

Does NOT fit. Take a grammar class and learn to comprehend. Then stop breathing and jump off a cliff. There is no outcome of events that fit this. The only outcome of events was a post on the Internet. I'm pretty sure that he was very much expecting the post to be made on the Internet as he clicked the add thread button. Seriously, do you even think before posting?
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It does fit. Its not HIS intent we're talking about. The situation is Advanced Technology being Insulted via the use of Advanced Technology. Its not him, its not his intent. The person is not the irony here, its the situation.

But you know what, this is going no where. Fuck it.

But seriously, this:

Then stop breathing and jump off a cliff[/b]

Anger much? Would've figured you to be above a such comment.