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      Repairing Windows and Recovery

      Hello all,
      i used to have an HP a400n with an 80gb harddrive. one day, the computer crashed and i had to replace the motherboard. once the motherboard was replaced, i turned on the computer and i needed to repair windows so it would work. i went into the repair console and had to type in the administrator password. i typed in my password, i left it blank, i typed in admin and admisistrator for passwords but apparently it was not the password. I called HP and since my warranty was expired, they were going to charge me 50 dollars for them to tell me the password. i decided against. now my oldharddrive is in my computer as the slave and im running the os off a different harddrive. my question is is there anyway to find out the administrator password if the device is attached as a slave? (i havent changed any files in it so it is like the day it crashed). by the way, i cant access any folders in the drive and there is no security tab in "properties".

      any help would be appreciated
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      You could try to crack the password with Ophcrack. If it fails to determine your admin password, there's probably a way to reset it with Knoppix. First try Ophcrack and let us know how it goes.

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      will that only work on a master? or will it work on a slave too?
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      get a Linux liveCD
      (Either Knoppix or Ubuntu will do fine)

      once booted in the liveCD
      do:
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      apt-get install chntpw
      this will download and install the program "chntpw" (change NT password)

      Mount the windows partition
      open up a terminal, and navigate to
      windows/system32/config
      and run chntpw (change "administrator" to the username you want to change the password for)
      Code:
      chntpw -u administrator SAM
      You will be prompted for a password
      (if you want to remove the password completely, enter an asterisk at the prompt)

      reboot and login to windows using the newly changed password
      Last edited by Ynot; 04-28-2008 at 01:23 AM.
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      sounds complicated
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      Yeah, what Ynot said is exactly what I was thinking of. As for Ophcrack working on a drive attached as a slave, I don't know. You can download it for free and try it. If it doesn't work, just download a bootable Linux distro like Knoppix, burn it to a CD, boot it up, and run chntpw.

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      What the previous posters failed to observe is that there is already a special live CD of with Ophcrack pre-installed available on the Ophcrack page. Download the ISO, burn and run.

      Pay more attention, guys

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      ophcrack is fine if you want to leave no evidence of a system compromise
      but password cracking takes time

      it's far quicker & easier just to reset it
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      I'm confused. Help me out. :/

      What is a "repair console" and why would you need to repair Windows only because you change the motherboard?

      What exactly is on the hard drive? And what do you need the password for? For the hard drive (ATA-locked) or for some sort of software that is on the hard drive?

      Why not just mash the hard drive and make a clean reinstall?

      OEM systems confuse the hell out of me.

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      Korittke, he wants to get his data back.

      Quote Originally Posted by Identity X View Post
      What the previous posters failed to observe is that there is already a special live CD of with Ophcrack pre-installed available on the Ophcrack page. Download the ISO, burn and run.

      Pay more attention, guys
      I already told him about Ophcrack. Pay more attention to the above posts. Knoppix was only if Ophcrack failed, i.e. if the OP's version of Windows salts the admin password. I don't know enough about Windows to know if that's the case, hence my mentioning of Knoppix and Ynot's explanation of chntpw.

      Edit: Oh wait, you're point is that you could do chntpw from the Ophcrack LiveCD if Ophcrack fails. Haha, I didn't think of that. Point taken.
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      Quote Originally Posted by dsr View Post
      Korittke, he wants to get his data back.
      What's hindering him from doing so? Why not copy it over?
      Considering all he did was switch a motherboard, the HDD data should be thoroughly untouched. His inability to access the drive would indicate an ATA-lock to me.

      Note that I am still talking from the position of a confused one so I probably missed something.

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      windows tends to do weird things if you change the motherboard

      dropping back onto the 60 day trial, and locking out features, that sort of thing
      all in the name of anti-piracy

      (Windows doesn't know you've only changed the motherboard, all it sees it different hardware - for all it knows, you've mirrored the hard drive, and given it to a friend, to save him from buying Windows - so it assumes piracy and acts accordingly)

      I'm not saying this is the case here

      From the first post, his motherboard's given out, causing the machine to die, and this has busted windows - corrupted something (as to what, your guess is as good as mine)

      he needs to repair it, but can't without the admin password
      as before, easiest way back into the system without reinstalling windows is to reset the admin password, and repair it as per windows' own insistence

      Just plain reinstalling windows is not guaranteed to fix the issue
      (depending on exactly what has gone wrong - could be corrupt filesystem, in which case he's going to lose everything)
      at least going through another OS, he's got a chance of salvaging any data on the disk if it turns out to be unrepairable
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      I thought XP upwards single-user licenses consider a new motherboard a new system and therefore in any case piracy.
      If he got into the repair menu, the drive must be working. Why not just copy all the stuff and trash the sucker. Who needs dual Windows, one is bad enough.

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      now it seems that the rainbow table mirrors on the ophcrack website dont work
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      All you should need to download is the LiveCD: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/oph...4&big_mirror=0

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      it seems that ophcrack has redone their website but due to low bandwith, im looking at about a 13 hour download
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      well it seems like ophcrack did not work so i figure i'll just try to reset the password. do you think you could give a little more specific tutorial on how to use knoppix?
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      ophcrack also did not work for me..i was trying to crack an admin password for windows vista home premium.
      This shit never happens to me

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