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      Ubuntu

      Ok, so I have been useing ubuntu for a while now.
      And I just had to reinstall it because when I reset it, I get a black screen (were the log in screen should be)
      And it says
      "Out of range 71.5KHX/60HZ"
      Or something like that..
      It did that when I tried to update the driver, so the windows would be all wobly ...
      But yeah, I hate doing it because, I gota always run the updates, and its like 182 updates, and I lose all my themes, pictures, and music,
      anything I can do to keep this from happening again?
      Also I have to log into ubuntu using the fail safe gnome.. Whats up with that? I can use the x client or anything like that.. Not even gnome!
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      do you have an old-ish ATI card?
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      Yeah its old.
      Its all dusty... hmm jk lmfao
      Yeah it is old though. So will I have to deal without the cool special effects unless I get a new one?
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      no,
      there's a bug in the proprietary ATI driver, that affects older cards
      the bug dumps stupid refresh rates down the card to the monitor, and results in "out of range" messages on your monitor

      I *think* you can fix it just by reconfiguring xorg
      Code:
      sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
      unfortunately, being in the AMD proprietary driver, no-one but AMD can fix it, and they don't seem to bothered by it...

      as for losing all your stuff,
      plonk your /home on a separate partition
      doing this, you can reinstall Ubuntu (or any distro) and not lose anything
      all your files, settings, email, etc. are stored in /home/username

      so if it's on a separate partition, you can wipe and reinstall your OS, and your stuff is untouched

      see here
      http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/...own-partition/
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      To late...
      I already reinstaled ubuntu on the whole drive..
      Thanks for your help
      So I should run the command then try and re update the video drivers then?
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      Oh and I would have to reinstal Ubuntu to type the command anyways.
      I couldent get anywear the way it was..
      No terminal at all..
      Ubuntu is already reinstallled on my computer.
      so would it be ok to go ahead and run the command?

      And why I am talking about it, is there a way to use itunes? JW.
      I Mean I dislike the other music programs it comes with but I can deal if I have to..
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      you can run itunes in wine
      but I would seriously not recommend it

      I'd go with either Rhythmbox (default gnome), Amarok or Banshee
      all 3 can sync iPods
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      Yeah, I dont like running things in WINE, its to sketchy it fells like!
      But should I still run that command you gave me above?
      And any more advice I should do because I just reninstalled Ubuntu again?
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      I would definitely consider putting your home folder on a separate partition.

      you can completely hose your system, reinstall, and be back up & running as if nothing happened, all within a half hour

      as for getting a 3D desktop
      Exactly what graphics card do you have?
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      Not sure (I cant see it right now)
      My mom bought this rental computer.
      But uhh How would I Put my home folder on a seperate partion?
      Reinstal ubuntu but with the guided? And make it like half and half?
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      Seen your post on Ubuntu forums

      You're going to have to post up what graphics card you have
      otherwise no-one can really help

      can you run
      Code:
      lshw -class display
      this will show what card you have
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      Yeah heres what it says..

      michael@michael-desktop:~$ lshw -class display
      WARNING: you should run this program as super-user.
      *-display UNCLAIMED
      description: VGA compatible controller
      product: RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series]
      vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
      physical id: 5
      bus info: pci@0000:01:05.0
      version: 00
      width: 32 bits
      clock: 66MHz
      capabilities: vga_controller bus_master cap_list
      configuration: latency=64 mingnt=8
      michael@michael-desktop:~$
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      great,
      now can you just confirm which version of Ubuntu you're using

      you can check in system > admin > system monitor
      on the first tab, there's a line starting with "Release...."

      also, while you're at it,
      can you post your xorg config file

      Code:
      cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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      Ubuntu 8.04 hardy

      # xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
      #
      # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
      # values from the debconf database.
      #
      # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
      # (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
      #
      # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
      # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
      # package.
      #
      # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
      # again, run the following command:
      # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

      Section "InputDevice"
      Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
      Driver "kbd"
      Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
      Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
      Option "XkbLayout" "us"
      EndSection

      Section "InputDevice"
      Identifier "Configured Mouse"
      Driver "mouse"
      Option "CorePointer"
      EndSection

      Section "Device"
      Identifier "Configured Video Device"
      EndSection

      Section "Monitor"
      Identifier "Configured Monitor"
      EndSection

      Section "Screen"
      Identifier "Default Screen"
      Monitor "Configured Monitor"
      Device "Configured Video Device"
      EndSection

      Section "ServerLayout"
      Identifier "Default Layout"
      Screen "Default Screen"
      EndSection
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      Try adding these lines to your xorg.conf
      and trying the driver again
      Code:
      Section "Monitor"
      Identifier "Configured Monitor"
      HorizSync 60-90.0
      VertRefresh 30-70.0
      EndSection
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      How would I add those lines? I mean were is the file at that I add those to?
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      1)
      Install the ATI driver

      2)
      Don't reboot

      3)
      Run
      Code:
      sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
      Edit file adding 2 refresh rate lines, as above

      4)
      Reboot
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      Ok, I will do that soon probably when I get back today!
      Thanks for your help!
      Will this probably solve the problem were I have to log into the fail safe gnome?
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      should do, yes

      bear in mind I don't own an ATI card
      I know about the refresh rate bug in the ATI proprietary driver for older cards
      but this solution is based purely on googling your problem...
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