Thread: iMac?

Mplayer is much better than Quicktime, even on a Mac.

The reason they don't make Quicktime work on Windows is because Apple is just as greedy as Microsoft when it comes to using only their software. Apple also doesn't put much work at all into bootcamp drivers, making Windows pretty buggy on a Mac.

Originally Posted by Demon Parasite

Apple also doesn't put much work at all into bootcamp drivers, making Windows pretty buggy on a Mac.

Please stop making things up. If you don't know what you're talking about, either ask someone who does, or read about it. How is it that you say that Windows is buggy on Mac because of bad drivers while PC World ranked the Macbook as the best laptop to run Vista on? I'm gonna go with PC World

Oh, ninja. He just is one o' them undercover Microsofties trolling our forums.

Originally Posted by [SomeGuy]

Oh, ninja. He just is one o' them undercover Microsofties trolling our forums.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

That makes sense too. Thanks Tony!

Originally Posted by ninja9578

Please stop making things up. If you don't know what you're talking about, either ask someone who does, or read about it. How is it that you say that Windows is buggy on Mac because of bad drivers while PC World ranked the Macbook as the best laptop to run Vista on? I'm gonna go with PC World

PC World isn't exactly the most reliable source. In my experience with running Windows on Bootcamp, the drivers have been buggy, and the system was generally unstable.

The drivers on bootcamp are getting better all the time.
Vista is buggy on a PC... hard to expect too much on a Mac. XD
XP on the other hand runs beautifully on a Mac.

Vista isn't buggy on a modern PC. It's been a fine OS ever since SP1, and it's not like it was at the start, there are drivers for basically everything now.

How can you say that? My friend's Mac has XP bootcamp'd into it, and I never had a problem that doesn't normally occur on XP.

And his Vista laptop is poop. Crashes, viruses (I got two trojans in one browsing session, but NOD32 caught them.), and the likes.

Originally Posted by Demon Parasite

PC World isn't exactly the most reliable source. In my experience with running Windows on Bootcamp, the drivers have been buggy, and the system was generally unstable.

Your experiences in all say very little of my chance of having problems if I'm running Vista on a Mac.

One: I'll probably never run windows if I buy an iMac.
Two: If I'll run windows, it's going to be XP, not Vista.

So please stop having such discussion which is hardly relevant to the thread.

Originally Posted by [SomeGuy]

How can you say that? My friend's Mac has XP bootcamp'd into it, and I never had a problem that doesn't normally occur on XP.

And his Vista laptop is poop. Crashes, viruses (I got two trojans in one browsing session, but NOD32 caught them.), and the likes.

The crashes are probably caused by viruses, which he must have got himself. You can't blame the OS for viruses.

Originally Posted by Demon Parasite

You can't blame the OS for viruses.

HA!!!
Oh my God, for Pete's sake
who's left to blame

An OS that's inherently insecure, and allows unattended propagation of executable binary code between arbitrary files

Who else is there to blame apart from the makers of that OS?

If your house falls down because it's built incorrectly, it's the developer's fault
Don't blame the occupant for having heavy feet
It's a shit house and it fell down

fucking hell....

Originally Posted by Demon Parasite

The crashes are probably caused by viruses, which he must have got himself. You can't blame the OS for viruses.

Originally Posted by Demon Parasite

The crashes are probably caused by viruses, which he must have got himself. You can't blame the OS for viruses.

You can't? I guess you can't blame the OS for a fragmented hard drive either then?

Originally Posted by ninja9578

You can't? I guess you can't blame the OS for a fragmented hard drive either then?

That is the filesystem.


Also, are you guys really saying that it's the fault of Windows that someone else went out and wrote programs to exploit it? The OS itself is actually no less secure than a Mac, if anyone remembers the Safari exploit found that only worked on the Mac version.

That's one exploit vs. ahell of a lot.

When a vulnerability exists in a piece of software,
be that core OS Kernel, system utilities, device driver, or some lowly user app
it's the fault of the author
no exceptions

All Microsoft Windows vulnerabilities are Microsoft's fault

When Debian messed up on OpenSSL last year, it was their fault

I am, frankly, stunned (and a little afraid for you) that you can defend Microsoft over these things

How can you NOT blame the OS for viruses and crap security?

Originally Posted by Ynot

When a vulnerability exists in a piece of software,
be that core OS Kernel, system utilities, device driver, or some lowly user app
it's the fault of the author
no exceptions

All Microsoft Windows vulnerabilities are Microsoft's fault

When Debian messed up on OpenSSL last year, it was their fault

I am, frankly, stunned (and a little afraid for you) that you can defend Microsoft over these things

I am not so much defending Microsoft, but I just hate Apple fanboys. I don't even use Windows.

Originally Posted by Demon Parasite

I am not so much defending Microsoft, but I just hate Apple fanboys. I don't even use Windows.

Fine,
but can I suggest, like most people arguing over OS's, that you stick to name calling and foot stamping, rather than technical computing issues

You're not particularly well versed in the latter....

Originally Posted by Demon Parasite

I am not so much defending Microsoft, but I just hate Apple fanboys. I don't even use Windows.

Then I don't think you should try and defend it. Things like this come from user experience.

Originally Posted by ThreeLetterSyndrom

Then I don't think you should try and defend it. Things like this come from user experience.

I've used XP for 3 years, and have used a bunch of different OSs either on my computer or on a friend's.

List your experiences, please.

Originally Posted by [SomeGuy]

List your experiences, please.

I have used XP for 3 years, and only got about 2 viruses or so, and they were caught pretty quickly by my AV. My friend owns a Macbook Pro, and I have used it, OS X isn't that bad, it's just the overpriced hardware that bothers me. He had Vista dual booted on it, and the drivers were pretty buggy, and I've heard it's a pretty common problem. I currently use Ubuntu 9.04, which isn't much better than Windows admittedly, but it's a start.