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    1. 06-09-2009 05:32 PM #101
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      Macs are not immune to virsues, actually. There is a huge Mac botnet going around right now, and users are unable to defend themselves against it due to most Mac users not having an anti-virus.
      The hardware isn't really "top of the line", it's not much different from PC hardware at all. If you're buying a PC, drivers are never an issue. That's only rarely an issue when building a computer yourself, and that's much more common in hackintoshes than PCs. Also, if you're buying a computer with 4+ GB of RAM, it will always ship with 64 bit versions. Apple does the same, putting 32 bit versions on computers with less than 3 GB of RAM, and 64 bit on ones with more. iLife being better is just your opinion, I prefer Office over OpenOffice or iLife, and there are better alternatives to things like iMovie and Garage Band anyway.

      The concept of more stable isn't always true. Honestly, you have to make Windows crash yourself, it hardly ever happens on its own. Like I said, I used Windows for 3 years and only got one crash, and that was because I fucked something up when putting in new memory.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Demon Parasite View Post
      Apple does the same, putting 32 bit versions on computers with less than 3 GB of RAM, and 64 bit on ones with more.
      Apples has one version of OSX. There is more of a difference than how much RAM it can use. OSX is 64 bit, ALWAYS. It has a backwards compatibility layer to run 32-bit programs, but the OS is 64.

      Windows is either 64 or 32, but the 64 bit version has no backwards compatibility layer, so it's not the OS that you have to watch, it's buying new software.

      If you're refering to the botnet that broke out in April, Apple fixed that security hole a few days after it was discovered. There have been thousands of Mac viruses written, currently, not one of them is a threat, the security holes that they took advantage of have all been fixed.
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    3. 06-09-2009 05:49 PM #103
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      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      Apples has one version of OSX. There is more of a difference than how much RAM it can use. OSX is 64 bit, ALWAYS. It has a backwards compatibility layer to run 32-bit programs, but the OS is 64.

      Windows is either 64 or 32, but the 64 bit version has no backwards compatibility layer, so it's not the OS that you have to watch, it's buying new software.
      Every program that I have used on Windows has a 64 bit version, it isn't a problem. There is no need for a backwards compatibility layer.
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      Yes, that's exactly the problem there is a 64 bit version, it's not the same program. You know what version of the OS you are running, most people don't.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Demon Parasite View Post
      Macs are not immune to virsues, actually.
      When comparing the few thousand viruses written for Macs to the endless supply of Windows viruses, it relatively is. Seriously, compare the statistics to each other, and tell me that Windows is more secure. Look at its structure and tell me the same.
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    6. 06-10-2009 08:15 PM #106
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      The biggest difference is that Apple fixes the security holes that allow the viruses to function. There are zero viruses that will work on Mac right now. On Windows, the anti-virus blocks the virus, the hole isn't fixed. If you don't have the latest virus definitions, you're fucked.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      The biggest difference is that Apple fixes the security holes that allow the viruses to function. There are zero viruses that will work on Mac right now. On Windows, the anti-virus blocks the virus, the hole isn't fixed. If you don't have the latest virus definitions, you're fucked.
      This isn't right, actually. Studies have shown that Apple don't plug their security holes any faster, or tighter, than Microsoft. (one link)

      At any rate most viruses are installed through user stupidity...
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      I got an iMac early this year, and it has been such a great purchase - especially for someone like me, who does a lot of programming and computer-geek stuff. It's also great, though, for any normal computer user. I have no regrets whatsoever about my switch.

      I actually went through a slow upgrade towards awesomeness: I first used Windows XP, then installed Ubuntu, then bought a Mac. But seriously. Compare it to any other OS and it wins.

      (I'm a Mac fanboy, if you can't tell.)

      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      Apples has one version of OSX. There is more of a difference than how much RAM it can use. OSX is 64 bit, ALWAYS. It has a backwards compatibility layer to run 32-bit programs, but the OS is 64.
      I hear this backwards-compatibility will end with Snow Leopard, however.. getting rid of all of the PowerPC remains I guess
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    9. 08-17-2009 12:03 AM #109
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      No, they just aren't supporting PPC anymore, your 32 bit programs like Photoshop will still run.
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