Am i doing it rite?

[Waterlimon]

Ive been trying to WILD for a few times now, during day and when going to sleep. So i lay there and maybe change position a few times. When ive not moved my limbs for a while my heartbeat goes up and i feel something, though not related to any senses (like i was going in a bit more sleepy state?) my arms become numb pretty quickly and a few times my toes started going as numb too... So when i get the feeling that somethings happening and my heartbeat goes up a bit last time, i felt like i was not relaxed and was somehow twisting myself a few degrees around the center of my body (i was relaxed and knew it, this feeling didnt go away though) Do i need to relax more or do i need to try keep more relaxed when i feel somethings happened? I tried to visualize stuff when something was happening and it made the feeling stronger but i cant focus on it for a very long time... Also when you feel like somethings happening like that, how long does it take for it to become stronger usually? Im not doing WBTB cuz im lazy and want to try to get to SP cuz i want to see pink mushrooms eating me alive. I know i propably wont get a ld that way. So do i need to just relax more? Im not counting, just listening to some sounds and visualizing me hugging meh dog (that kinda works) for like 30 mins and then switching position. Oh and when i was laying on my bed trying to wild yesterday i got the something happening by imagining a strongish wave go from my foot to head and it made it start. If thats any help. Edit: How important is it not to move your eyes? Because i keep them still for 20 secs and then after 10 secs im like Oh theyre moving, back to top of movement range u!

[Seroquel]

Im not doing WBTB cuz im lazy WILD is very hard to do if you are just going to bed. Don't be lazy and do WBTB. Otherwise, I think you'll find more success with another technique. WILD is not for beginners, and especially not lazy people. Edit: And about moving your eyes, you shouldn't move them. I have read somewhere that you should imagine a flame and focus on that.

[Waterlimon]

WILD is very hard to do if you are just going to bed. Don't be lazy and do WBTB. Otherwise, I think you'll find more success with another technique. WILD is not for beginners, and especially not lazy people. Edit: And about moving your eyes, you shouldn't move them. I have read somewhere that you should imagine a flame and focus on that. I could try waking up early in the morning after JUST 10 hours of sleep, and try getting a ld then, but i still want to try getting sp and/or sone fail quality semi lucid dream when going to sleep Is it hard to get to full SP when going to sleep?

[Seroquel]

It will just take longer for your body to relax, and enter the SP stage. If you manage that, your dream itself will not be as vivid and can easily fall apart.

[Rithas]

As much as I would like to LD right as I go to bed, it just isn't feasible. And it's going to be near impossible if you've never LD'd before, too. I would also say try WTBD. Hell, work on DILD when you practice WILD. Doesn't hurt to do reality checks durring the day to increase your chances of a lucid dream.

[Waterlimon]

When i try wild with no previous sleep, is it better to use the techniques where you keep your mind empty and count or should i imagine being in a dream with all of my senses (because it helped me a bit) or does it really matter?

[Rithas]

You should be actively trying to get to sleep. It's kind of a confusing concept and I haven't really wrapped my brain around it either. So be aware to keep your mind awake, but try to sleep (x_X?) And the second method you mentioned is called a VILD and there should be a tutorial on here for that as well. It's quite in depth so check it out.

[Waterlimon]

Managed to get to the point where breathing becomes a bit harder... :3

[Waterlimon]

What makes me not enter sp btw? Is it because i usually swallow once around the time, or because i focus on my body once in a while accidentally? Or should i just try to keep my mind clearer...? o.e