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Hi,
I am a newbie to a lucid dreaming and iam trying to get there via using WILD technique, but iam constatly failing. I think i can make it to a SP stage, but iam often interupted by my hearth. It's beating so fast and I start thinking about my body and then i woke up without SP. I don't know what I am doing wrong. Maybe I am not enough relaxed. Can you please give me some advices (I am looking through the forum forward and backward but still iam failing).
I think one way that is preventing you from pulling off a WILD is that you're expecting SP to hit in. If you read this guide below,
http://www.dreamviews.com/f79/sleep-...0/#post1873116
you'll find some truth to misused terminology over SP and WILDing.
For some people, they don't necessarily have to experience their body being "paralyzed." Sometimes, you might slip into the dream state pretty quickly, which can be hard to determine whether or not you are dreaming.
For some people, before they transition into the dream state, they might experience vibrations over certain areas of their body, or all over. Usually, when these vibrations stop, they most likely are in the dream state, or maybe moved too much.
When you heard your heart beating fast, and started thinking about your body, just tell yourself that it's all normal, and this is what you go through every night.
Take it the heart beating fast as something normal, and try to think about something else other than your body. I don't know if you do this or not, but are you doing WBTB for your WILDs as well?
If not, it's best to do a WBTB (Wake Back To Bed) to increase your chances of pulling off a WILD. The reason you want to do this is because with enough self-discipline with estimating when you hit your REM periods, you can set an alarm or use autosuggestion to wake yourself up after you've had a dream.
Maybe the amount of hours you try to put in before doing the WILD could be one of the reasons you have difficulty. The minimum amount of sleep you should get is 3.5 hours. You can extend the amount of sleep you get beforehand, but as with many people, everyone is different, so that's something you have to estimate yourself. It might take a few nights to get the hang of it, but if you have a consistent sleep schedule, you're bound to find the right REM periods to perform a WILD.
Of course, that's just being idealistic, maybe your lifestyle doesn't promote you to have a consistent sleeping schedule, so you might have to rely on autosuggestion (but it's not the only method you can use).
But something you should come out knowing from this is that you shouldn't focus on whether or not you're reaching the "SP stage," and don't expect them to come at all, it'll just get you too excited.
If you're sure you hear your heart beating fast each time your attempt a WILD, try to use that as an anchor for retaining a low level of awareness while drifting to sleep.
One of the important aspects of a WILD, in my opinion, is to sleep. If you think too much about how you have to balance between awareness and being unconscious, it will only make it more difficult. You can use the heart beating as an anchor, and if it occurs again, just let the experience come to you naturally.
If you find the beating to be normal again, try to do a reality check:
Plugging your nose and trying to Breathe
Imagining what the environment is like without opening you eyes...for me, I remembered that when I did this in a WILD, my dream eyes automatically opened. It might be the same or different for you, but it helps if you're afraid of opening your waking life eyes.
Imagining yourself rolling your dream body. If you are able to roll out of the bed easily with mental effort, you are most likely dreaming.
Slowly elevating your body up. This might be a little risky, especially if you're not used to getting out of your bed in lucid dreams, but it can help you do other reality checks such as the nose plug RC (the one where if you plug your nose and can breathe, it means you are dreaming).
I think you are in the dream state whenever your beating is normal, so maybe you've had some False Awakenings where you thought you failed the attempt. So always do reality checks if you find yourself experiencing your heart beating fast (it's a normal process that you should experience passively instead of thinking of your body).
WBTB Tutorial - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views
And here's a piece from Billybob's guide on WILDING
WILD - The Guide To End All Guides - Lucid Dreaming - Dream ViewsQuote:
Eventually you will find yourself experiencing one of the following, this will tell you that your entering a dream:
falling through your mattress and landing on your dream-bed.
suddenly finding yourself standing up in the middle of some random dream location fully aware of your lucid state (a massive eternal field of flowers for example).
seeing a light in your vision and suddenly being pulled towards it at what feels like an extremely fast speed.
Suddenly you find that your eyes are open and your sleep mask gone
You feel a single wave of energy pulse through your body, suddenly you feel revived and like you just cant WILD any more.
You don't feel anything at all, you just have to risk all and do a reality check (this is very uncommon, remember that if you do a reality check then your giving up all chances of having a successful WILD after that. {in the event that it says your not asleep})
(those are just a few, the experience varies with the person)
Hope this helps, and note, these aren't the only ways of testing the reality around you. :)
EDIT:
If WILD is too difficult for you, you can always perform a Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream.
Some ways you can do this is to use autosuggestion like telling yourself things like,
"When I wake up from a dream, I will keep my eyes closed and remain still."
Damn that was a whole tutorial on it's own! Magic >:)
I must thank you alot for these advices and I hope it will eventualy helps me. I am trying to get to lucid dream just a while (about 4 days so I know I must not expect to succes so early). I got plenty of time cuz i go sleep at about 10 p.m. and get up at 3 p.m. (I tried it only once, cuz i didn't know about WBTB), but i probbably woke up too much and then the birds started to singing and my cat jumping on the door so it was too noisy to continue. I have these problems when i try Lucid dreaming at afternoon nap so today I am gonna try WTBT again. Thanks alot ;)
No problem, and also, just because you tried getting into lucid dreaming 4 days ago, that doesn't mean you can't have a successful WILD. Some people get lucky, some people don't, but never think that you have to have some kind of preset amount of time before you can WILD. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Ondrapp
Good luck! And you can also thank other members such as Mzzkc and Billybob as well. :P
I will do my best :). Yes I will thank them, i hope they dont get angry if i send them PM ;)