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    1. 04-04-2014 02:31 AM #1
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      Disastrous first WILD attempt

      Last night I tried to WILD for the first time, and the results were... interesting. I didn't use WBTB- I just read a book for 30 minutes before bed to relax and then started meditating on my back. It took a while but I started getting numb and losing track of where my limbs were, and my eyes started twitching randomly, and I started getting weird sensations like the surface I was sleeping on rotating around in space, and I knew that REM paralysis had set in. There were no pretty lights or images though, just darkness. At this point I got really excited because I didn't think I would manage it on the first time, and my heart started beating really fast. That was probably one of my mistakes. Then I remembered that I had to imagine my dream, so I tried to imagine the beach world I had planned. But it seemed really far away, and whenever I got close I would start swimming out and eventually end up alone in the deep ocean, which I'm really terrified of. I tried to rewind back to sitting on the beach a few times, but I always ended up in the deep ocean. Eventually I just gave up, but the reality was no better. I was trapped in my own body with sleep paralysis, and I couldn't call for help. After realizing that I kind of just panicked, and my heart started beating even faster. I didn't try to move or open my eyes though, because I had heard stories about sleep paralysis and they were not fun. Eventually, though, I had had enough and I tried moving a finger. That spread an amazing sense of relief through my body and I was free, and also drenched with sweat. That should have deterred me from ever WILDing again, but I still want to keep trying. I'm afraid, though, that the memory of that experience will keep me from relaxing enough. Any tips?
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      That actually sounds like a great first attempt! Panic aside, you did it, congrats! Now it's just a matter of relaxing, trusting, and going further in. I've never heard of anyone dying through LDs or WILD, so there really is nothing to worry about. It's completely safe. Just keep in mind that it's all you, and you'll be fine!
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    3. 04-05-2014 02:38 AM #3
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      Don't think of the attempt as a bad one; everything you do counts towards experience! You'll get better at it.
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      Sounds like you tried to wild without WBTB, couldn't hit a REM period, and ended up in the (cue scary music) VOID!!!

      But you did learn about wiggling your fingers. Changing your breathing can also break you out of SP.

      I would bet that had you done exactly what you did after a WBTB you would have found yourself in a lucid dream.

      Try again, but after sleeping for 4-6 hours.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Nailler View Post
      Sounds like you tried to wild without WBTB, couldn't hit a REM period, and ended up in the (cue scary music) VOID!!!

      But you did learn about wiggling your fingers. Changing your breathing can also break you out of SP.

      I would bet that had you done exactly what you did after a WBTB you would have found yourself in a lucid dream.

      Try again, but after sleeping for 4-6 hours.

      Niall
      Ah. See, I was under the impression that you could get a dream without WBTB. I guess the guide I read was just wrong- thanks for letting me know! But if that wasn't REM, then why was I in SP and getting all those weird sensations?
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      Quote Originally Posted by geegeegee5 View Post
      Ah. See, I was under the impression that you could get a dream without WBTB. I guess the guide I read was just wrong- thanks for letting me know! But if that wasn't REM, then why was I in SP and getting all those weird sensations?

      The body's process of falling asleep is the same, SP and sensations, when first going to bed or after a WBTB. The difference is NREM, the early stage of sleep, is pretty much dream free. For a vivid dream to form you need to fall to sleep close to REM stage. REM sleep is like the canvas on which dreams are painted... so to speak.

      WBTB works, because in the later sleep cycles, REM sleep periods are longer and follow more closely on one another.

      You should consider your experience as a success because you were able to stay aware, even if it ended in dreamless NREM rather than REM.

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