I feel like I'm the only one...

**MsHowToMC** · 10-30-2015 12:26 AM

Everywhere I see people saying that it's their 4th day or first month and they're already going in and out of remaining some conciousness for WILD and I've been doing this for roughly 3 months and all I have is brief hallucinations. Yes I do WBTB if you're wondering. I know you're saying that everyone has different bodies and minds etc. But everyone else seems to be getting somewhere fast and easily where I'm still at stage 1. I just hate having no progress and I feel upset when I think about it.

**supergang77** · 10-30-2015 01:58 AM

keep going ive been trying for probably half a year, i havent gotten lucid or close to lucid but i think of it as a challenge and its exciting. my failures encourage me more not upset me

**Sensei** · 10-30-2015 03:20 AM

hmmm... people do definitely learn at different paces, but three months and six months means you might be doing something wrong. What technique have you been trying for three months?

supergang, what technique have you been trying for 6 months with no results?

Also, not the only one, here is another thread about the same exact thing, but 4Xs longer.
http://www.dreamviews.com/general-lu...ml#post2177427

**supergang77** · 10-30-2015 01:49 PM

well i have been focusing on recall for like 80% of the time and maybe just trying a technique between them for no real reason even though i was just focusing on improving rcall

**Sensei** · 10-30-2015 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by supergang77

well i have been focusing on recall for like 80% of the time and maybe just trying a technique between them for no real reason even though i was just focusing on improving rcall

Well has your recall improved?
I recommend spending 50/50 effort on it (time is much different than effort).

Here is a thread that you might like:
http://www.dreamviews.com/dreamviews...e-told-me.html

It talks a lot about things you should know when you start LDing so that you start off on the right foot. And after that is this thread
http://www.dreamviews.com/general-lu...s-secrets.html

It is a list of things that I don't think change from person to person and that all people should know about Lding.

**supergang77** · 10-30-2015 07:08 PM

it has increased a lot before i may remember one fragment a month but now i remember one long dream every day for the last 2 weeks sometimes i may remember 2

**~~MasterMind~~** · 10-30-2015 07:49 PM

Speaking from experience of struggle in many different practises:

- Don't compare yourself to anyone other than yourself. Their progress doesn't have any meaning for you unless it helps you get motivated or to learn something.
And remember that most stories you hear from people are not 100% accurate. Reality is simple and boring, so we make it EPIC and well.. exaggerated.

- Set goals that match your current level. If you are new to playing guitar you don't expect to riff like Van Halen after 3 months, but somehow for lucid dreaming everyone thinks they are going to master it in a year, ops scratch that, a month... It's just not realistic, you don't jump a mountain, you take it step by step and know that there will be peaks and valleys.

The reason to why we become upset is because our expectations doesn't match our experiences. Start with a simple goal like: For 1 month I am going to practise exploring "brief hallucinations" if that is your level, if that's too difficult the goal can be: For 1 month I am going to practise relaxation.

And THEN when you do something that MATCH your level you will get into momentum with your action and slowly progress. Enjoy the practise in itself, don't reach for unrealistic results from the get go, because that is a fast lane to frustration, because the MAJORITY of people can't even do what you are trying to do. But if you just accept your current level and take action and adjust your expectations then you will not only get result, but you will enjoy the practise not as a means to an end but as an end in itself!

My advice if I have to give one, would be that you do a mental training exercise that is based on what I said above. This exercise have helped me understand the process of learning and success in multiple different areas in my life and especially lucid dreaming. That exercise is called meditation.

It really hammers the idea of right progress thinking into your head and is beneficial in itself.

Goal: Sit on a chair and stare into the wall for 20 min. Can you do it? No? So if you can't perform the act of doing NOTHING in 20 min without getting distracted by limiting thoughts and sensations how do you expect to handle your mind when you are in the act of doing? Of course the way you learn to do this and experience the dopamine rush from it is to again ADJUST your expectations, if you have never meditated in your life, don't expect to handle 20 min without freaking out. How about testing 1 min and then slowly progressing? My point is, be process-oriented and realistic, not result-oriented and unrealistic.

TL: DR When you are focused on the OBSTACLES, your own mind will limit you from succeeding even if an oppurtunity is staring you right in the face. But if you are focused on the POSSIBILITIES, your mind will be free to see all oppurtunities. So be realistic and see the world as it is, not as you wish it to be. Be excited by the small successes because it's the small steps of the stairway that leads to heaven, not an elevator.

Peace