Hello everyone. So long since last time I posted on-topic

Iiiiiin any case, I'm here to talk about a potential variation of the WILD. This will probably be better discussed by people with experience on the topic, but everyone's invited to share their views.


In my noob times, I had the never-fading ideal of practising WILD from the beginning of sleep, even knowing some people don't even judge it possible. And now, after a few years of dealing with lucidity with cyclic interest and effort, I come to ask myself if WILD from the beginning of the night really is possible, and if so, to what extent.


I already know that entering sleep paralysis is fairly possible to do from the beginning of sleep, and have done it extensively before. In fact, I even have my own technique for it. It is not as effective as doing it with WBTB, and success varies a lot on what you do during the day, but I think it's only a matter of training.

The period before entering the dream is the problem I'd say. It is practically impossible not to go unconscious after some time, and even if you manage to find your way into a dream, it will still be very intangible, shallow or dim. Many times, all I experience is hallucinations before going unconscious.

My question goes to the experienced WILDers: have you ever done WILD from the beginning of sleep? Is it possible/practical at all? Is there a technique you recommend?

Finally, understand how I'm not talking about sleep cycle tweaking or REM rebound - my aim is to do this on a perfectly normal and routinely day.



On a parallel note, I'd like to highlight how I do not feel any more tired after a night of trying WILD (without WBTB), so the main point in this technique would be to make WILDs more accessible (most WILDers I know only do it on weekends).