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Originally Posted by Travis E.

I became lucid due to having a FA from a dream of taking shelter from a bad storm and finding myself in the exact same location and body position (I knew I didn't go to sleep there and don't sleepwalk or anything). When I went outside and started flying, I seem to have sensed the dream fading and my waking up, though my memory of this moment is oddly foggy. I'm not even entirely sure if the imagery actually faded, though I'm not sure why I would believe I was waking up if it didn't. I decided to focus on the scene I was just in for a while to try to bring it back. After a few moments, I considered giving up and going ahead and journaling, and that's when I realized I was actually already back in (or perhaps, never left) the dream scene, so I continued my dream.

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I would definitely call this a DEILD, though it may have been a DEILD driven by fairly low-level lucidity. In other words, you knew on some level what to do to move the dream through your upcoming moment of wakefulness, but you were not quite lucid enough to do it fully "on purpose," or to know for sure that you were about to wake up... and yet your skills and expectations were solid enough that you were able to see the DEILD through based on even the slightest conscious input; nicely done!

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I apparently got distracted from my primary goal in the process, though. I still knew I was dreaming, but I noticed an odd “edge” in my dream world beyond which there was a void of blue sky in all directions, so I flew over there to have a look and saw the moon, one of the planets, etc. I then spent the rest of the dream attempting to make the moon get bigger and bigger, as if it was on a collision course with Earth. That wasn't anything I was planning to do (though it's something I've tried before), but still kind of cool, and I got some good dream control practice.

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That I think is an excellent example of putting low-level lucidity -- and a successful DEILD -- to work. To have a "fallback" exercise on hand for those times when your wits aren't quite on hand is an excellent plan, even if you don't know you've made it... a real sign of some excellent LD'ing skills, I think... and next time you DEILD, you might be quicker to recognize the moment, and use that recognition to move from dream to wake to dream with more consciousness and authority.

Okay, so today I decided to do a wbtb WILD (i prefer Wild over mild in wbtb) 7 hours after going to sleep. I woke up and stayed awake for about 50 minutes, walked a bit and watched some youtube so I decided to go back to sleep with the soundtrack of "In the shadow of the moon" on. I had two chances to really "go into" the dream.
The first chance: I felt my body was paralyzed and tingling and an instant after that I felt the feeling in your ears after you yawn the entire time (I didnt mind it) and saw a darkness with minuscule colored lines crossing the darkness all in the same direction. I saw a chunk of colors (mostly yellow) coming closer towards me. Then it stoped moving towards me and you could notice some darkness around it and I notice some things were pixelated as if I was watching a movie in the worst resolution. The scene faded away and I noticed that I wasnt paralyzed anymore. I kept my eyes closed and focused on the playing music and then quickly brought focus to my sight (nothing but a few blurred colors in my eyes) and it did work: I felt the "ear sensation" and everything was black aqgain but this time I couldnt control the darkness and it faded away quickly.

Any tips to make the transition between paralyzed and dreaming?

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Originally Posted by Sageous

I would definitely call this a DEILD, though it may have been a DEILD driven by fairly low-level lucidity. In other words, you knew on some level what to do to move the dream through your upcoming moment of wakefulness, but you were not quite lucid enough to do it fully "on purpose," or to know for sure that you were about to wake up... and yet your skills and expectations were solid enough that you were able to see the DEILD through based on even the slightest conscious input; nicely done!

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That makes sense. I did feel like that might have been a fairly low-level LD, perhaps due to the unusually fuzzy recall at first as well as my fairly impulsive nature in that dream, which is quite different from how I normally make decisions. Things seemed to improve a bit toward the end, and I handled the strategy I was intending to try out well and eventually got more or less the result I wanted, albeit with an interesting twist.

Now that I think of it, I think I am noticing a general trend toward almost instinctively taking appropriate measures in LDs whenever I get a feeling I might be waking up, even when I don't ultimately end up doing so. There have already been several occasions where I have seemingly kept the dream going a while longer by doing this. Maybe I've already been DEILDing without realizing it!

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That I think is an excellent example of putting low-level lucidity -- and a successful DEILD -- to work. To have a "fallback" exercise on hand for those times when your wits aren't quite on hand is an excellent plan, even if you don't know you've made it... a real sign of some excellent LD'ing skills, I think... and next time you DEILD, you might be quicker to recognize the moment, and use that recognition to move from dream to wake to dream with more consciousness and authority.

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This is one thing I think is really cool—even when I don't remember my main goal, I usually end up doing something worthwhile, whether it's practicing skills, just having fun exploring, or doing one of the countless items on my ever-growing “things to try in a LD someday if I can ever manage to get to them” list!

Oops, one slipped by me:

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Originally Posted by ToukieToucan

Okay, so today I decided to do a wbtb WILD (i prefer Wild over mild in wbtb) 7 hours after going to sleep. I woke up and stayed awake for about 50 minutes, walked a bit and watched some youtube so I decided to go back to sleep with the soundtrack of "In the shadow of the moon" on. I had two chances to really "go into" the dream.
The first chance: I felt my body was paralyzed and tingling and an instant after that I felt the feeling in your ears after you yawn the entire time (I didnt mind it) and saw a darkness with minuscule colored lines crossing the darkness all in the same direction. I saw a chunk of colors (mostly yellow) coming closer towards me. Then it stoped moving towards me and you could notice some darkness around it and I notice some things were pixelated as if I was watching a movie in the worst resolution. The scene faded away and I noticed that I wasnt paralyzed anymore. I kept my eyes closed and focused on the playing music and then quickly brought focus to my sight (nothing but a few blurred colors in my eyes) and it did work: I felt the "ear sensation" and everything was black aqgain but this time I couldnt control the darkness and it faded away quickly.

Any tips to make the transition between paralyzed and dreaming?

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The best tip I can offer here, I think, is to consider the fact that there is no "transition between paralyzed [SP] and dreaming." There really isn't. First, there really is no SP at all: if you happen to be one of the few people who actual suffer from sleep paralysis, it normally happens upon waking, and not upon falling asleep; what you are probably experiencing is simply deep relaxation or perhaps the onset of REM Atonia, both of which are completely normal, and part of the overall WILD transition. Next, the only transition you should be looking for is the transition from wake to sleep to dream (aka, the WILD transition); it really is the only transition going on -- the rest is just noise that is best left alone.

Speaking of that noise, I can't help but notice that your entire post is essentially an accounting of that noise. I think that if you were to instead stay focused on the dream, and try to let the assorted sensations (i.e., HI, that paralysis, dreamlets, etc) run their course without your attention, you might find it much easier to complete the transition.

Also, perhaps as an aside, watching YouTube during WBTB might not be the best idea, because doing so can tend to wake you up too much (even when the YouTube content is of a dreamy variety).

I know there was not a lot that you probably wanted to hear here, ToukieToucan, but I hope you will consider ignoring some of the noise, staying focused on the dream, and maybe that there really is no transition from SP to the dream in a normal WILD.

My WILD this morning:

I wasn't specifically intending to WILD, but I was thinking about lucid dreaming a lot as I went back for a morning nap. Everything was dark, and I suddenly had the sensation of someone sitting on my bed. I heard my brother's voice talking, and figured this must be the start of a dream forming. I let him keep talking and focused on the sound of his voice. My vision of the bedroom and my brother started to form, although it was very dark. I wasn't confident about moving my body yet, so I imagined myself moving out of bed telepathically without trying to move muscles, and my dream body followed without much sensation. Once I was standing, I tried to walk, but I felt kind of dizzy and drunk. I tried using more flowing movements with a gentle dance where I felt very light. I clapped my hands together and they felt partially numb at first, but my senses grew stronger and the dream seemed to stabilise. I went on to have a great lucid dream, where I enjoyed practicing various dream control and confidence matras. :)

Hi, Sageous. So, I sleep with my air conditioner turned on and I've noticed that sometimes when I go to sleep, I realize that I can no longer hear the noise of the AC and find it strange. Then, I get surprised by that and kind of wake myself up to start hearing it again.

Could you please tell me what this means?? Is it that the times when I'm not hearing my AC I'm actually mentally aware but physically asleep? If so, can you tell me how I can keep that state of awareness and not wake myself up physically? I look forward to your response. Please and thank you.

-Ajanime22

^^ Yes, you very likely could have been asleep, or close to it, when you noticed that you could not hear your AC. You also might simply have allowed the sound of the AC to exit your current realm of perception, and its sound just wandered back on its own... but we won't go there; let's assume, for the sake of WILD, that the former happened and you were indeed falling asleep.

What should you do, should this happen again (and it likely will!)? Basically, nothing.

That's right, do nothing: Don't be surprised, or excited, or even terribly curious. Instead, just sort of notice that the AC noise went away for a time, which could mean you were asleep, or close to it, while still retaining your waking-life self-awareness. Acknowledge that your state might have transitioned from wake to sleep, and that there might be a LD waiting just over the horizon. The good thing about this is that, even if the AC's sound just eluded your attention for a bit, you still mght be putting yourself in a good mental position to LD anyway.

Also, keep in mind that no matter what happens during your night's sleep, there is never a need to force yourself awake. If you understand fully that nothing can harm you while you are safely in your bed, and that odd events like that AC sound disappearing are simply stuff that happens during the going-to-sleep process and truly have no real power unto themselves, then you might be more able to stay calm throughout the process, and maybe enjoy a WILD along the way.

tl;dr: You might well have been asleep, so if it happens again, stay calm and maintain your current state: there is no need, ever, to be surprised, or force yourself awake; especially when you might be on the verge of a LD.

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Originally Posted by Sageous

^^ Yes, you very likely could have been asleep, or close to it, when you noticed that you could not hear your AC. You also might simply have allowed the sound of the AC to exit your current realm of perception, and its sound just wandered back on its own... but we won't go there; let's assume, for the sake of WILD, that the former happened and you were indeed falling asleep.

What should you do, should this happen again (and it likely will!)? Basically, nothing.

That's right, do nothing: Don't be surprised, or excited, or even terribly curious. Instead, just sort of notice that the AC noise went away for a time, which could mean you were asleep, or close to it, while still retaining your waking-life self-awareness. Acknowledge that your state might have transitioned from wake to sleep, and that there might be a LD waiting just over the horizon. The good thing about this is that, even if the AC's sound just eluded your attention for a bit, you still mght be putting yourself in a good mental position to LD anyway.

Also, keep in mind that no matter what happens during your night's sleep, there is never a need to force yourself awake. If you understand fully that nothing can harm you while you are safely in your bed, and that odd events like that AC sound disappearing are simply stuff that happens during the going-to-sleep process and truly have no real power unto themselves, then you might be more able to stay calm throughout the process, and maybe enjoy a WILD along the way.

tl;dr: You might well have been asleep, so if it happens again, stay calm and maintain your current state: there is no need, ever, to be surprised, or force yourself awake; especially when you might be on the verge of a LD.

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Thanks so much for the response, Sageous. I really appreciate it. Thanks for the encouraging words.

Something happened the other night. I wasn't trying to WILD, but I ended up in a situation where I could, and some interesting things happened.

I was on a trip with my family, and so the first night I woke up in the middle of the night. For a while, I lay in bed because I was really tired and groggy, but I had to use the bathroom enough to keep me awake. After a while I got up and used the bathroom. When I came back to bed I tossed and turned for a while, trying to get back to sleep and adjust the fan to keep me comfortable.

I couldn't sleep and stayed awake for some more time, then when I started to get sleepy again, a ringing started in my head. My body also felt like it was pulsing in rhythm with the ringing in my head. I wasn't startled, as this had happened before (more on that later), so I lay there for a bit hoping to enter in to a dream. I waited, then realized I should probably try to visualize some kind of destination for a dream to form, so of course I thought Hey, how about my room!.

I think I saw my room in front of me and it sword of swam around in my vision, then the ringing and all that stopped and my vision was black. When I opened my eyes, I was in my bed like before. I thought that I failed getting in to a dream, and completely forgot about 1. Doing any kind of RC and 2. that earlier I had visualized my room for the dream to form in. So, I settled back down and tried to go to sleep. Almost immediately, the same thing started again, so I started to do the same thing. I heard voices coming from downstairs. Normally, it wouldn't have been anything unusual, but it was the middle of the night and I also had my earplugs in so if the voices were real I wouldn't have heard them. I started to try and visualize my room again but then some scary thoughts started to go through my mind. I couldn't push them away so I decided to pull myself out of the attempt.

What I then would have expected to happen was for the ringing and vibrations to fade away and leave me in my bed as before, but instead I had the sensation of waking up, as if I wasn't awake for this second attempt but rather asleep and dreaming. I think after the ringing stopped the first time, I was in a dream. I visualized my room as where I wanted to end up, so that is precisely what happened. I was in a dream that was starting in my room, but I didn't even think to do an RC. I just thought that I failed my attempt, so I tried to go back to sleep, but I was already asleep.

Something similar has happened a couple times before. I've woken up and when I go back to sleep, I end up with this ringing in my head and pulsing in rhythm with that ringing. I've also noticed a few things that have been constant throughout all these occurrences. One is that they are always after a time where I wake up and can't go back to sleep. It happened once before when I woke up and was too hot, so I tossed around for a while, then got out of bed and pulled up the sheets to cool them down. Overall, I was awake for at least 30 minutes or maybe for as long as an hour, I'm not sure. Also, these occurrences haven't been intentional. I just wanted to go back to sleep and ended up in that ringing state.

I realized that all these times where this has happened, I was awake for quite a long time. In the past, I usually woke up for WBTB and then stayed up for 5 or 10 minutes at the most before attempting WILD, but these times I was awake for much longer, maybe 30 minutes to an hour. I'm thinking that maybe if I extend my intentional WBTBs to these longer times, I may have some more success with my intentional WILD attempts.

Well got the dragging state again by accident for some reason today.
I went to sleep at night normally with no other intentions and then woke up after 6 hours and got up for breakfast then went back to bed and attempted SSILD.. After sleeping through some dreams for some time, i guess i woke up again apparently.

Anyways, i woke up naturally and rolled over to my left side and then i got this "body drags into paralysis" thing. As i weren't expecting this i got freaked out and i tried to resist it by moving and i barely could move, not to mention having an annoyingly loud noise in my head at the time.

> Loud noise
> Can barely move
REM Atonia?

Interesting. This could be SSILD's doing.

today I got another accidental LD.
I woke up at 7 and stayed awake til 8:30, then I decided to go to sleep again
I fell asleep in an uncomfortable position because my gf took up all the space.

As I was falling asleep, I noticed I was getting a weird transition-like feeling, so I payed attention to it. It was a warm fuzzy gravitational feeling all over my body. I figured I was starting to dream, so I opened my dream body eyes. It felt like opening my real eyes but it turned out to be a dream. I looked at my hand and thought I was dreaming. I didn't count the fingers, the vision was just so weird and blurry that I KNEW it was a dream. my dream world was crumbling so I looked at my hand again and counted 6 fingers. Then I tried to rotate. I ended up somewhere else with slightly less blurry vision. I had a headache in my dream and at some point it was all black
in any case, I knew I was dreaming, it was a shitty LD though coz my recall and control and everything wasn't good at all.
Eventually I woke up and did it again. had another more or less LD, kinda like DEILD technique, but this one was just black so I wasn't interested in it and lost control.


so far it seems like I'm only making LD progress when I'm really tired.

^^ But was it really accidental? I wonder!

If your head is in the right place for LD'ing, and you are mentally prepared to notice a transition-like feeling and then do something with it, I think you might be more involved with your WILD than you might think.

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Eventually I woke up and did it again. had another more or less LD, kinda like DEILD technique, but this one was just black so I wasn't interested in it and lost control.

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It might not hurt to stay with the dream, even when it is just black. One occasional side-effect of DEILD is that you do not return to the dream you just left (though in this case you sort of did, if you think about it), but encounter a bit of NREM or perhaps REM without any dream imagery. If you hang out in that black for a moment, especially with some thoughts about what you'd like to be dreaming, that black might begin forming into something... it also might not, because you might just be too close to a waking state to jam in another dream, but it still might be worth the wait to find out. Also, if the black is NREM, it can be most enjoyable on its own.

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so far it seems like I'm only making LD progress when I'm really tired.

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Perhaps then you could put that to use, and attempt some WILD's when you're really tired? They might not be the best of dreams, content-wise (as you already noticed), but at least they are something, and you can gain some experience so that it gets easier to LD when you're not so tired. Now, I'm not recommending making yourself tired, which can prove very counter-productive.

It just seems accidental because when I have these hunches "today it feels like I could have a lucid dream", I don't dream at all
but then I get an LD on other days when I don't even think about dreams.
it also doesn't seem like a full normal LD because I haven't worked on control and stabilization so far

about being tired, WBTB seems like a good way, if I learn how to do it right. I've failed 3 times at WBTB. The most promising could be afternoon naps, after all I had my first LD during a nap and my second one technically after a nap/WBTB after 7 hours of sleep

in any case, thanks for your response and words of affirmation
I guess I did improve quite a bit, but I'm not anywhere near what I've been wanting to master

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It just seems accidental because when I have these hunches "today it feels like I could have a lucid dream", I don't dream at all
but then I get an LD on other days when I don't even think about dreams.
it also doesn't seem like a full normal LD because I haven't worked on control and stabilization so far

about being tired, WBTB seems like a good way, if I learn how to do it right. I've failed 3 times at WBTB. The most promising could be afternoon naps, after all I had my first LD during a nap and my second one technically after a nap/WBTB after 7 hours of sleep

in any case, thanks for your response and words of affirmation
I guess I did improve quite a bit, but I'm not anywhere near what I've been wanting to master

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Just remember that 2 LDs is not enough to analyze what works and doesn't work for you.

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I fell asleep in an uncomfortable position because my gf took up all the space

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Awwww so cute. Ok, advice:
Step 1:realize you need your comfortable sleep.
Step 2: Kick her out of bed! Like really kick her, put your back into it!!
:lol: just kidding
sry had to say it

you're right louai...
I haven't found out what works for me, sometimes I'm even thinking I'm unable to LD correctly because I'm too rational.


easier said than done, I've tried to kick her out but when she's sleeping she got a bigger biceps than Arnold Schwarzenegger.
besides, I'm afraid she wants to terminate me when I wake her up :wink:

Hi again, Sageous. So, I took your advice on trying to relax when I realize that I can't hear my AC anymore. I slept with it turned on again last night and every time I noticed that I wasn't hearing it anymore, I also noticed that I was beginning to zone out. But, whenever I "turn on" my awareness I would, I would still wake up and then start hearing my AC again.


I'm not exactly sure what I'm supposed to do. I'm not scared. But, I know that in order to wild, you have to be fully aware well going to sleep, which I still am having a hard time understanding. If you're mond is awake, how can you put your body to sleep?

I look forward to your response.

-Ajanime22

I have two thoughts, Ajanime22:

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Originally Posted by Ajanime22

Hi again, Sageous. So, I took your advice on trying to relax when I realize that I can't hear my AC anymore. I slept with it turned on again last night and every time I noticed that I wasn't hearing it anymore, I also noticed that I was beginning to zone out. But, whenever I "turn on" my awareness I would, I would still wake up and then start hearing my AC again.

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How about you don't "turn on" your awareness next time?

Just continue your zoning out, and simply note the absence of AC noise as a road-mark beside your path to WILD? In a sense, you would be using the lack of noise as a sort of mantra to encourage you to stay on your WILD path.

By refocusing on the AC noise, or the fact that it is absent, you are inviting waking-life -- and wakefulness -- to elbow its way into your sleepy state. In other words, when you notice the AC sound is gone, you immediately, if perhaps unconsciously, want to hear it again because it is supposed to be on. And, of course, the only way to properly hear the AC noise is to return to a waking state. So try instead to simply acknowledge that the AC noise is gone, and that means your dream is just around the corner, and do this without being concerned about the actual noise the machine ought to be making.

It's actually okay to zone out a bit during WILD, as long as you don't lose total contact with your waking-life self-awareness... which leads me to thought #2:

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I'm not exactly sure what I'm supposed to do. I'm not scared. But, I know that in order to wild, you have to be fully aware well going to sleep, which I still am having a hard time understanding. If you're mind is awake, how can you put your body to sleep?

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I think you might be confusing self-awareness, of knowing your state, with natural, sensory awareness.

This is not entirely your fault, because so much talk on these forums seems to center around sensory awareness rather than self-awareness. This (I believe) incorrect focus has led a lot of people down just your path, where they struggle to stay awake during WILD, rather than struggling to stay self-aware. Since WILD can only work when you fall asleep, staying physically awake (aka, aware) is not a good idea. By the same token, zoning out isn't such a bad thing to do, as long as that zoning involves a detachment from all the stuff your physical body is encountering on its way to sleep, and not a separation from your self-awareness. In other words, yes, your mind is awake, but it must stay "awake" while your body -- including its natural awareness mechanisms -- falls asleep:

In order to successfully WILD, you must maintain a state of waking-life self-awareness throughout the wake-to-sleep-to-dream process. That does not mean you must maintain a sense of physical, sensory, awareness while falling asleep. You really do not need to pay attention to anything physical that you see and hear along the way (in fact, as you probably already know, I recommend paying no attention to all that noise). Instead, let the things to which you normally pay attention -- sights, sounds, smells, etc -- slip away from you as your body falls asleep. If you hold onto, or, worse, summon that sensory input, you very likely will wake up. Instead, pay attention to your mantra, or to your intended dream, and let your body fall asleep without you.

tl;dr: WILD is about maintaining your waking-life self-awareness -- your sense of Self -- throughout the falling to sleep process; it is not about maintaining physical awareness. If you do the former and step away from the latter, you should have an easier time of things.

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You really do not need to pay attention to anything physical that you see and hear along the way (in fact, as you probably already know, I recommend paying no attention to all that noise). Instead, let the things to which you normally pay attention -- sights, sounds, smells, etc -- slip away from you as your body falls asleep. If you hold onto, or, worse, summon that sensory input, you very likely will wake up.

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By summoning sensory input, you mean actual RL input and HI?? Not visualizations of the dream I want to visit, right? Cuz I usually daydream during WILDs, and repeat a mantra that I'm WILDing right now to maintain my self awareness. Daydreaming helps me lose awareness of my WL body, and also it helps form the dream faster I guess, cuz if I keep daydreaming and keeping my self awareness present, eventually what I'm doing in my daydream starts to become more vivid and strong, my vision becomes clearer, and touch becomes much stronger, and bam it reaches full state where I'm now dreaming and can move and walk and talk without waking up.

I'm just making sure. You know how paranoid I can get :p

I slept for 4 hours, woke up, did a voice DJ and had to clean up dog pee. Was up for 20 minutes and went back to bed. I was holding still on my back and trying out my mantra. "i know I'm dreaming." I start to get the heavy hands when all of a sudden i get a huge itch behind my ear. I scratch it and it goes away. I can't get comfortable again. I roll over and go back to sleep.,

So I just did my first two WILDs this afternoon around nap time. They both failed. I used the 61-point meditation and spinal breathing from yoga to relax myself and then just left myself drift into sleep using the mantra "I am dreaming." However I encountered a problem: vibrations, usually in the head region, that make my shoulders and neck tense up. My eyeballs were also bouncing around like they were on meth, but the vibrations were really more of the problem. I had times when I felt like I was beginning to float and the pressure in the back of my head would get really intense, then everything would relax and I knew that I had failed.

I'm quite familiar with these vibrations from practicing yoga nidra, which is like WILD but instead aims to induce a state of conscious dreamless sleep. I've never figured out how to get beyond them, however. They always make my shoulder, neck and jaw muscles tense up and I think that prevents me from going deeper. Any suggestions on how to deal with this?

Louai:

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By summoning sensory input, you mean actual RL input and HI?? Not visualizations of the dream I want to visit, right?

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Yes, Louai, I'm talking about real-life, physical-body sensory input and HI (which also tends to be RL sensory input that you just happen to be noticing). So no worries! Go right ahead with visualization, daydreaming, or anything else you might do to keep your mind active while your body falls asleep.


mzungu:

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So I just did my first two WILDs this afternoon around nap time. They both failed. I used the 61-point meditation and spinal breathing from yoga to relax myself and then just left myself drift into sleep using the mantra "I am dreaming." However I encountered a problem: vibrations, usually in the head region, that make my shoulders and neck tense up. My eyeballs were also bouncing around like they were on meth, but the vibrations were really more of the problem. I had times when I felt like I was beginning to float and the pressure in the back of my head would get really intense, then everything would relax and I knew that I had failed.

I'm quite familiar with these vibrations from practicing yoga nidra, which is like WILD but instead aims to induce a state of conscious dreamless sleep. I've never figured out how to get beyond them, however. They always make my shoulder, neck and jaw muscles tense up and I think that prevents me from going deeper. Any suggestions on how to deal with this?

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I think that the way to get beyond these vibrations (and your eye movement) is to do your best to either ignore them completely or make them a bit less important to you.

These vibrations are simply the sort of things your body are always doing as it falls asleep, only you normally are not consciously present to witness them. So let them happen, because they will, but mindfully dismiss them as so much background noise, or mere mileposts indicating that your dream is on the way.

Here's an interesting thought: I could be wrong, but I have a feeling that if you successfully ignore the vibrations, your muscles will stop tensing up: they are probably not tensing up because of the vibrations, but because you are reacting to them.

[I could be wrong, but this advice probably holds for your yoga Nidra practice as well... something to think about, at least!]

My WILD attempt started like this... I went to bed and wore a sleep mask, I told myself that I would retain my self-awarness . Then the Hypnagogic Imagery started and I saw swirling colours and dreamlets appearing now and then. I watched these images , but didn't interact with them , I just remained passive.I felt faint vibrations all around my body, not all at once, but one at a time. Then suddenly I was very aware of something (idk what) , my heart beat rapidly and I breathed in and out quickly. I felt my self rise up from the bed just like that and heard Auditory illusions like , the drumbeat of a helicopter , random sentences from some cartoons (Dragon Ball Z, goku yelling kaioken) , and people calling my name. Then I chickened out and woke up or got up i don't know.Damn it I had to chicken out :bang:

So how close was I? Oh yea and another question does the room have to be as it is when i'm really going to sleep, as in dark? does the room have to be quiet?

^^ Welcome, Paralyzed:

First, I suggest that you read through the DVA WILD class to which this thread is attached. You might pay special attention to the session about the noise, because it briefly describes how all those distractions you experienced are not important to your WILD attempt. If you can hold only the dream as important, and let the other things (like vibrations, strange imagery/voices, etc) slide past you with only a passing glance, you likely won't feel an urge to chicken out during your WILD dive.

I say this because, yes, you were very close to your dream, but the noise got in your way, and you might have needed just a bit more mental prep to complete the dive. The course is not as long as it looks; I hope you will check it out!

Also, yes, it is a very good idea to attempt your WILD in a darkened room, or while wearing a sleep mask. Light is the enemy of sleep, so it is best to keep it at bay. It does not need to be just like it is when you go to bed at night (there is no correlation that I know of), but do try to get your environment as dark, quiet, and comfortable as you can make it.

Good luck with your next dive!

Sat up for reluctant wbtb at 3 am and had a Late morning LD :chuckle: decided to lay on my left side (around 4.20 am)as I was now very awake and felt I needed to change my sleeping position and see what happens ( I usually attempt wild on my back) I knew I would fall asleep quite quickly on my side tho so I did my best to keep mind clear and repeat mantra

"I am Lucid tonight " and " I know I am dreaming"

At 5.54 am I woke to put this one in voice recorder
- got a couple of short Lucids on my side! The first was a propper false awakening where it was the first time I have Actually realised I was dreaming as I lay there on my side in my bed - ha ha it felt great ! Having the awareness to bring my hands up to look at them ' great I am dreaming'! I sat up! And said 'I am Lucid ' - but Then I laid back down ... then I sat up again and went running into my mums room laughing ( my mum doesn't live here so I had quickly become non lucid ;( ...I then went back to bed and very soon realised again as I lay on my side "hay - I was actually dreaming again!"- I looked at my hands again - yes! " I am still dreaming " I said. This made me very happy and I got up easily from my bed and wandered out of the house - I tried to remember some tasks as I made my way out. The scenery was a bit grey so now, in hind site, I feel it would have been good if I had taken time here to stabilise by rubbing my hands together or saying some mantras - so I think dream ability was pretty weak. A DC got in my way and un-nerved me a bit ; I didn't-want to get distracted so I managed to brush passed him - once outside I decided I wanted to climb to the top of a high rise building and jump off to test my Lucidity - ha ha - lucidity was low tho coz - as I tried to jump and climb up the side of a building I kept falling back down, no super power! Finally woke up knowing I have lots and lots to learn ;) great experience!:alien:

Last night - and this morning had many NL dreams .I did wbtb around 4am - 5 and settled down for WILD ... during the process of falling asleep and as I got closer to wake up time I had various dreams where there was a strong buzzing in the dream and a weird feeling in my face and body - almost like it was morphing or shape shifting - this is something I am coming to recognise now from a few dreams as a sign - I am starting to see it is my self becoming more and more aware of the fact i am dreaming - the buzzing and change of feeling are part of a new intenseness that accompanies the realisation of " I am dreaming " I think - when ones does become lucid. I am hopeful that I am starting to notice this more and more which will result in more Dilds and Wilds :alien: