WILD questions

**chadol** · 08-31-2015 02:18 PM

Hello, I have a few questions about WILDs.
Please note that I never WBTB.

1) When I stay in one position for a long time (I can stay upto 2 hours on my back), I usually get gentle buzzes throughout my body. I thought this was sleep paralysis but it isn't - I can move at will and recently I have found out what true SP feels like. I perform mantras while lying down, and stay like that for a long while but I have never gotten into that sleep paralysis phase. is there anything that I'm doing wring?

2) I can't wake up from an alarm well, and I also share my room so setting an alarm at 5 or so and waking up on that time is near to impossible. That's why I try to WILD before going to bed. now I know this is very hard, but is it actually impossible?

3) Like I mentioned on 1), I have felt sleep paralysis once. I quite enjoyed the sensation and tried to WILD from it. However I failed and just went into a normal dream. Could you tell me how I can slip into a LD instead of a normal one?

4) I have successfully reality - checked in about ten dreams before (I RC frequently during the day). But as soon as I figured out I was dreaming, I blacked out. Also I feel really groggy and tired as soon as I realize that I'm not dreaming. This has nothing to do with excitement IMO, because not being able to talk or move isn't that much exciting.

Thank you, please give me good answers and advices.

**Chewnie91** · 08-31-2015 03:41 PM

Hello chadol!

1) SP is simply a stage that CAN be used as a benchmark to let you know you are on the right path. However, SP is in no way REQUIRED to WILD. In fact, some people never experience SP. If you focus too much on trying to achieve SP, you may be unintentionally preventing yourself from having a WILD. Remember, the goal is to fall asleep, while conscious of course

2) Performing a WILD at the start of the night is very possible. It is just much more difficult since the body is only beginning to get into the rhythm of sleep. I too had the alarm problem, and so I came up with a solution. The best way around using a loud alarm that will wake up whoever else is in the room is to set your alarm to vibrate (if you are using your phone). I set my alarm to vibrate and stuff it into my pillow case, wakes me up with no problems at all!

3) It sounds like you need a better anchor. You slipped off into unconsciousness during the transition, which is completely normal. You need to develop an anchor to help keep you conscious through the transition. It could be something as simple as using a mantra (since you said you like to use them). The key is to passively allow the transition process to take place and find yourself in the dream.

4) So are you saying that you woke up after you performed a RC? Did you try to do anything after you became lucid?

**chadol** · 08-31-2015 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Chewnie91

Hello chadol!

1) SP is simply a stage that CAN be used as a benchmark to let you know you are on the right path. However, SP is in no way REQUIRED to WILD. In fact, some people never experience SP. If you focus too much on trying to achieve SP, you may be unintentionally preventing yourself from having a WILD. Remember, the goal is to fall asleep, while conscious of course

2) Performing a WILD at the start of the night is very possible. It is just much more difficult since the body is only beginning to get into the rhythm of sleep. I too had the alarm problem, and so I came up with a solution. The best way around using a loud alarm that will wake up whoever else is in the room is to set your alarm to vibrate (if you are using your phone). I set my alarm to vibrate and stuff it into my pillow case, wakes me up with no problems at all!

3) It sounds like you need a better anchor. You slipped off into unconsciousness during the transition, which is completely normal. You need to develop an anchor to help keep you conscious through the transition. It could be something as simple as using a mantra (since you said you like to use them). The key is to passively allow the transition process to take place and find yourself in the dream.

4) So are you saying that you woke up after you performed a RC? Did you try to do anything after you became lucid?

Your tip on the first question might be what I needed, thanks.
Well, the problem with alarms is that I wake up from it and can't stay awake... but thanks anyway.
Your third tip, about the anchor, is something I have never thought about. I will look into it.
And regarding your question - I try to rub my hands or shout out 'clarity', but my dream self won't budge. Actually, I often black out from that lucid dream and normally go to sleep so I usually don't have a chance to even think about doing anything else.

Thanks, I will definitely look up anchors.

**Chewnie91** · 08-31-2015 08:21 PM

Ah, well if the problem is that you can't stay up after a WBTB, I would suggest changing up what you do DURING the WBTB. Maybe go get a drink of water, browse the forums for a few minutes, or even write in your DJ (if you've recalled any dreams at that point). It takes a little tweaking to get your exact WBTB time frame down.

Okay so if you are experiencing dream paralysis upon becoming lucid, you can do a few things. Don't rush right when becoming lucid, if you can SEE that you are dreaming but not move, that's better than nothing. Focus on each sense one by one, maybe try your sense of smell next. Think about the types of smells that might be in the scene.

Lastly, it's all in your mind. If your will is strong enough, you will be able to move. I find that most of this time, this is just due to a mental barrier that the dreamer has created themselves, and so you have to overcome it. If you think that you can't move or even think that it may be difficult, it will be difficult. Just imagine yourself walking forward in the dream, as you would in waking life, and you may find that you are able to move!

**chadol** · 09-01-2015 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Chewnie91

Ah, well if the problem is that you can't stay up after a WBTB, I would suggest changing up what you do DURING the WBTB. Maybe go get a drink of water, browse the forums for a few minutes, or even write in your DJ (if you've recalled any dreams at that point). It takes a little tweaking to get your exact WBTB time frame down.

Okay so if you are experiencing dream paralysis upon becoming lucid, you can do a few things. Don't rush right when becoming lucid, if you can SEE that you are dreaming but not move, that's better than nothing. Focus on each sense one by one, maybe try your sense of smell next. Think about the types of smells that might be in the scene.

Lastly, it's all in your mind. If your will is strong enough, you will be able to move. I find that most of this time, this is just due to a mental barrier that the dreamer has created themselves, and so you have to overcome it. If you think that you can't move or even think that it may be difficult, it will be difficult. Just imagine yourself walking forward in the dream, as you would in waking life, and you may find that you are able to move!

Yeah, what you told me about the alarm for WBTB might be the thing I needed :-) I wish phones would electrically shock me so I could get up on time, but technology hasn't gone that far yet, sadly.

Also your comment on my stuck dream sessions - I've thought about it and you are right. It's better than nothing. That being said, I will try your tips tonight.

Thanks again.