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      Giving up Marijuana

      I am debating quitting my smoking habit, which I believe is inhibiting my REM cycle. (After a little bit of reading online)
      I've been a smoker for quite a long time, but I am certain that Lucid Dreaming would be more beneficial and enjoyable.

      Any feedback on this?
      I recall a chemical that is released less while under the influence, forget the name though... starts with an 'M'.

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      Melatonin. And yes, I'd suggest giving it up. Drugs in dreams are much better, anyways.

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      Well then I guess I'll have to try that out.
      Do you have any idea how long it takes for the side effect of smoking to ware off?

      I am actually interested in doing much more than drugs in my dreams, but I'm sure that will come up.

      How far can you bend time, such as what is the contrast between real time and dream time?

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      Hm, I know this might sound biased, but smoking marijuana is never appropriate. I advice you to give it up, and rather focus on other means of enjoyment - like lucid dreams - where you can enjoy make believe drugs instead of harmful, real ones.
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      Good Luck! I actually gave up smoking a few weeks ago. Next week, I'm one month clean!

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      Thats okay, you don't sound biased at all. You have your opinion, and because it differs from mine that makes it valuable.
      I have quit before, but I started smoking a few months ago.
      I think this will be my last bag; thanks for the feed back. I look forward to speaking to you all later

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      i'v had countless lucids since i started smoking a year ago. it moves your REM cycle to around the 7-10 hour mark or so it does for me anyways. i don't even remember most dreams till then. it's all about figuring out your sleeping habits. you can WILD pretty well but its hard to concentrate while shifting from awake to asleep.


      but heres the thing it does impair recall a little,i remember before i started smoking i could remember vivid dreams as clear as day so much more often.
      im prob going to take a T Break myself if not just for the improvement of recall after just 3-4 days


      anyways what im trying to say is, you can smoke mary and still lucid dream easyily.
      you just have to keep trying to figure what works for YOU
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      I don't even sleep for that long most nights =/

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      Quote Originally Posted by Hyperborean View Post
      Hm, I know this might sound biased, but smoking marijuana is never appropriate. I advice you to give it up, and rather focus on other means of enjoyment - like lucid dreams - where you can enjoy make believe drugs instead of harmful, real ones.

      But it DID conquer my Insomnia. It stopped a psychosis in me once.How is that inappropriate? Will you speak for yourself, cause in my experience Cannabis is very usefull and very appropriate?

      You know what Tobi? You know the pros and cons of Cannabis, no need to ask for a supportive opinion of others; You can make that choice without us. Use the facts known about Marijuana(Note the FACTS, not the abundant myths and lies) and combine them with your subjective personal experience.

      This is YOUR decision Tobi. Take it. Trust your own judgement.
      It shouldn't remotely matter to you what we think, cause you have your own judgement of Cannabis. You experience Cannabis in a Unique way, different from how other's experience it or more Pathetic: judgement on Cannabis by people who've never taken it.
      And the decision will have consequences to YOUR life, so trust your own judgement. You know better than anyone of us.
      Last edited by SKA; 11-28-2009 at 12:48 AM.
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      hi there having smoked stupid amounts of weed as u can see from my profile picture of the nice juicy g-13 plant ( was mostly smoking nice potent stuff aswell ) for about 8-9 years and it was daily use and alot like 30-40 bongs per day more on weekends... i found lytrally the day i didnt smoke any ..that night i had much better dream recall...and since then its just been getting better..longer dreams more vivid...only a couple lucid one's .... i know ganja messed my lucid dreams up or my recall anyway

      because up untill about 13years old id have lucid dreams alot like most nights

      its just getting my skill back thats hard lol but i did find that 90% ill become lucid during a nightmare... i mean ive had sum crazy dreams and i think how could i not know that was a dream ?? even last night was mad and still no lucidity

      its just great to have my recall back thou giving up will definatly help ...i had a little trouble to get to sleep at first but now its all good

      good luck and hope this helps

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      I will have to both agree and disagree with you SKA.
      The decision has already been made though, all I wanted was to hear if it had worked for any others.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Conkt View Post
      Drugs in dreams are much better, anyways.
      Haha the only time I would ever actually consider it even. that's a nice idea and I might just add it too my list.

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      I like keeping lists ^_^

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      Im with ya! Ive just quit smoking in order to get my recall up. and i think,
      im also not yet becoming lucid becouse of the smoking. I do my RC,
      or i just know that i'm dreaming, and then continiu the story line.
      I might change it a bit, to say it freudian, usely id takes over, becomes cheeky
      But what i really want to do, is actualy a little and then go flying
      I think it is becouse of the weed. It makes my thoughts just go there own way.
      Its what i liked about it to in day time, nice to write as its inspirational.
      just drifting off, but i kinda loose contiusness. I drift off as i follow a script.
      it all goes atomaticly when im stoned, for example, done the diches so many times i
      could do it with my eyes closed, and so i pay no attetion, i day dream.
      After i stopped smoking for a while on vakantion i noticed i became sharper. And so i'll have to quit.
      I smoked for free and so it went up to like 2 grams a day.
      Tho the effects of weed are differant for every one, and there is always an exception to the rule.
      It seems that it does not help attaining lucidety, or just remembering.
      Now there might be some here that smoke and dream with out any problem.
      but it seems the majorety of us has trouble with it.
      and so im quiting to.

      P.S. it takes 2 days for the REM cycle to return to normal after smoking.
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      Thank you for answering my question!
      2 days-
      Well I am finishing off my bag today; so tomorrow I will be starting the count, I will see how accurate your advice is, or if it ends up to also be different for everyone.

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      I gave up smoking, and my recall got excellent, my dreams were more clear and interesting, other things.

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      Tonights the first night! ^_^

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      never knew your rem gets messed up from weed, i'm lucky i got the time to sleep 9-12 hours a day so it wouldn't matter much and i just started smoking for 2 months again .which is real stupid because i quitted for 8 months, anyways ty for the information think i'll quit soon again.

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      I quit smoking about a month ago but from my experience with marijuana and when I smoked right before bed it made my dreams more vivid which sometimes led to DILDS but my dream recall GREATLY suffered. After I stopped, I'm able to have lucids just as often with reality checks and my dream recall is much better. So as far as lucid dreaming goes I think its better to sleep sober.
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      Weed is illegal.

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      Thanks everyone.
      Last night was the first night of sleep after a whole day of not smoking, and I was able to recall all three of my dreams, although I couldn't remember many details.

      @GreyDecay - That is the exact problem that I had... Once in a while I would remember my dreams after going to be high, but it was a very rare occurrence.

      @Lucidness - Thanks, I had no idea pot was illegal. lol : What better reason to quit, cause in my dreams it happens to be legal.

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      keep at it dude, im sure a lucid is right around the corner for you
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      Thanks JamesLD ^_^
      BTW I really like your signiture.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lucidness View Post
      Weed is illegal.
      Crime is illegal. And there is no such thing as a victimless crime.

      P.S. It can't be that illegal. I can buy it in regular stores here :-p
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      Quote Originally Posted by Smokey.Skywatcher View Post
      Crime is illegal. And there is no such thing as a victimless crime.

      P.S. It can't be that illegal. I can buy it in regular stores here :-p
      There is a phrase that escapes me, but it references laws that are well known to not be enforced. I really wish I could remember what it is called. But anyway that is how it is in Amsterdam right? It is illegal, but they really don't care that it is illegal...
      if that makes sense.

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