Thread: Ask me about Therianthropy

Originally Posted by Jeff777

I completely agree. When I was a kid, I too longed for that feeling of "specialness" and wanted to stand out from the crowd. Therefore I belonged to the otherkin community for a few months as well. I believe people like you and I are somewhat sympathetic to people like WolfTsunade now because we were once in that same state of mind. But as you said, it all boils down to wanting to feel special and trying to stand out.

My thoughts exactly. I just couldn't put it into words.

Originally Posted by WolfTsunade

For one thing, Otherkin and therianthropy aren't exactly the same thing, otherkin believe they are mythological creatures, such as dragons or faeries. I do not feel the need to be special, I am what I am and I do not care what others think of me, special or average. I also avoid standing out, I do not like to draw attention to myself. I'm not surprised that you left the otherkin community, especially since you were at a young age when you joined it, YOU probably wanted to feel special or at least be in a group you could fit into or confused about yourself until you realized you weren't otherkin. When you say "energy parasites", do you mean vampires?

The age was an over exaggeration. It was to show I was not as mature back when I was in the otherkin community, I was actually more around 13 - 15. But yes, I do mean vampires. I try not to use the term "vampire", though. I think people also just gave it the name "vampire" so they can feel special about that, too. For attention. Then they go dress up in black and act all "dark" (to feel special) I want no part of that, so I call it an energy leech instead. I do not believe in otherkin. Energy leeches are the closest thing to otherkin I believe in.

My point still stands, about your therian-ness.

And Jeff: 100% correct.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

Interesting stuff, I've heard of this before. Actually when I was a kid I was under the impression I was a therian. Infact I still use my email from those younger years today. Therianthrope777. But I was a 15 year old kid and make believe was the name of the game. Wolf, you seem like an intelligent human being so why do you buy into such malarkey? This talk about physically shifting into a werewolf and astral shifting and dream shifting is causing your thread to teeter on the fence between Ask/Tell and Beyond Dreaming.

Most therians believe that physical shifting is impossible, the person who claims that they did it are usually ignored because they are either roleplaying or lying.

Originally Posted by WolfTsunade

Most therians believe that physical shifting is impossible, the person who claims that they did it are usually ignored because they are either roleplaying or lying.

I really don't mean this as an insult to your intelligence but I have to ask it anyway. Since you believe people can be born with animal souls and be connected with animals...what about chickens? Do you believe there are people who are under the impression that they are chickens and connected to their "feathered" friends? Or do you believe wolves are just placed on a pedastal. And in your earlier post when you were addressing Tricky saying that otherkin refers to mythological creatures therefore you're not otherkin...this assumes that weres are non-fictional creatures who have a place in non-fictional books at your local library. A werewolf or "were" is a mythological creature so come again?

Originally Posted by Jeff777

And in your earlier post when you were addressing Tricky saying that otherkin refers to mythological creatures and you're not otherkin...a werewolf or "were" is a mythological creature so come again?

They are all forms of otherkin. Dragons, Faries, therians, etc. All of them. She lied when she said therians werent.

Just clearing things up.

But yes, I also realize..Why does everybody pick an animal like that? Why doesnt anybody ever realize thier a chicken, or another animal like that? Is it not "cool" enough?

Originally Posted by Jeff777

I really don't mean this as an insult to your intelligence but I have to ask it anyway. Since you believe people can be born with animal souls and be connected with animals...what about chickens? Do you believe there are people who are under the impression that they are chickens and connected to their "feathered" friends? Or do you believe wolves are just placed on a pedastal. And in your earlier post when you were addressing Tricky saying that otherkin refers to mythological creatures therefore you're not otherkin...this assumes that weres are non-fictional creatures who have a place in non-fictional books at your local library. A werewolf or "were" is a mythological creature so come again?

There is likely a chicken therian somewhere as weird as it sounds, bird therians also exist. A mythological werewolf and a therian werewolf aren't the same thing. Therians deal with the belief of being an animal that exists, and otherkin deal with the belief of mythological beings, but some people group them together as one group.

Originally Posted by WolfTsunade

There is likely a chicken therian somewhere as weird as it sounds, bird therians also exist. A mythological werewolf and a therian werewolf aren't the same thing. Therians deal with the belief of being an animal that exists, and otherkin deal with the belief of mythological beings, but some people group them together as one group.

Interesting, thank you for clearing that up.

Could you tell another therian?

Originally Posted by Dizko

Could you tell another therian?

what?

Originally Posted by WolfTsunade

what?

If somebody was one, like another wolf. Could you tell?

Originally Posted by Dizko

If somebody was one, like another wolf. Could you tell?

Well, probably, I'm not too sure. I sometimes pick out animal qualities I see in people who go to my school, but I think the only way to know that someone else is a therian is by asking, which I probably wouldn't do.

Could someone have the soul of an animal and not know/not believe it?

Originally Posted by Dizko

Could someone have the soul of an animal and not know/not believe it?

Well, it depends on what you believe, if you do believe that souls exist, then you could probably have an animal soul and not know, or have a physiological connection to an animal and not know. Some people may doubt themselves because they don't know how people would react to them if they knew about their therian side, also they may think it's "not normal" so they ignore the possibility of being a therian. Which is why most therians do not tell others about being a therian, because of danger of harassment.

Could someone have the soul of a human and not know/not believe it?

Obviously..Because if souls exist, theres plenty of humans who do not believe so.

Originally Posted by Dizko

Could someone have the soul of a human and not know/not believe it?

Yeah, if you believe in souls, but I wouldn't know about human souls....

I'm not trying to diss your beliefs or anything, but you've mentioned that you "have the mind of a wolf." How far do you take this? I mean, do you hunt in a pack with other wolf therianthropes, or do you buy your food from a super-market? You're using the internet, and that's something I'm pretty sure no wolf has done before.

Originally Posted by CatBus

I'm not trying to diss your beliefs or anything, but you've mentioned that you "have the mind of a wolf." How far do you take this? I mean, do you hunt in a pack with other wolf therianthropes, or do you buy your food from a super-market? You're using the internet, and that's something I'm pretty sure no wolf has done before.

It's actually common for wolf therians to find a pack of their own, usually just wolf therians join packs, but they allow non-wolf therians to join as well. Hunting may be something I might enjoy, but I wouldn't use guns because I think that's cheating and the lazy way to hunt. I plan on moving up to Canada to live in the forests there. I'm going to build a cabin, and hunt/grow my food. Using the internet is just something I do to pass the time, otherwise I would be fishing or something.

Originally Posted by WolfTsunade

It's actually common for wolf therians to find a pack of their own, usually just wolf therians join packs, but they allow non-wolf therians to join as well. Hunting may be something I might enjoy, but I wouldn't use guns because I think that's cheating and the lazy way to hunt. I plan on moving up to Canada to live in the forests there. I'm going to build a cabin, and hunt/grow my food. Using the internet is just something I do to pass the time, otherwise I would be fishing or something.

a) If using guns to hunt is "cheating" what are you going to do? Catch something with your bare hands? Using traps would be out of the question if guns are cheating, because they're simply products of human ingenuity. Oh wait, you have a wolf soul.
b) You're gonna go live in a forest just because you think you have a wolf soul? Not only that, you're obviously too young to make life-changing decisions. Still more, do you know the first thing about survival? Lastly, no offense, but I don't think you'd be able to handle killing an animal.
c) I just thought about your theory of a human having a wolf soul. What defines a soul as a certain animal? If it was originally in a wolf, it would only be a wolf soul because the wolf was raised that way. You claim that being raised as a human hasn't affected your soul, so why would a neutral soul turn into a "wolf soul"? If souls are originally formed as specified for an animal, why would a human get a wolf or animal soul? There should be enough human souls to go around. If you think it's some sort of cosmic mix-up, or that there aren't enough human souls, or WHATEVER would give a human an animal soul, why aren't there any insect therians? There are probably a million times more insects than wolves. It can't be that insects are "lesser" or something. Wolves are obviously "lesser" by the same definition than humans, and you seem to be fine.

Originally Posted by pojmaster17q

a) If using guns to hunt is "cheating" what are you going to do? Catch something with your bare hands? Using traps would be out of the question if guns are cheating, because they're simply products of human ingenuity. Oh wait, you have a wolf soul.

Some animals use traps to catch their food. Wolves technically trap their pray as well. I would probably make my own tools to hunt with.

Originally Posted by pojmaster17q

b) You're gonna go live in a forest just because you think you have a wolf soul? Not only that, you're obviously too young to make life-changing decisions. Still more, do you know the first thing about survival? Lastly, no offense, but I don't think you'd be able to handle killing an animal.

I think I am old enough to make life-changing decisions and I do not need someone telling me that I'm not. I am not going to move in a forest because I may have a wolf soul, but it does help influence the idea, I've wanted to live that way for a pretty long time. My HUMAN mind might not handle killing an animal, but my WOLF mind can.

Originally Posted by pojmaster17q

c) I just thought about your theory of a human having a wolf soul. What defines a soul as a certain animal? If it was originally in a wolf, it would only be a wolf soul because the wolf was raised that way. You claim that being raised as a human hasn't affected your soul, so why would a neutral soul turn into a "wolf soul"? If souls are originally formed as specified for an animal, why would a human get a wolf or animal soul? There should be enough human souls to go around. If you think it's some sort of cosmic mix-up, or that there aren't enough human souls, or WHATEVER would give a human an animal soul, why aren't there any insect therians? There are probably a million times more insects than wolves. It can't be that insects are "lesser" or something. Wolves are obviously "lesser" by the same definition than humans, and you seem to be fine.

There are still questions that I still need to answer for myself, especially the ones that concern souls. And as weird as it sounds, there is probably at least one insect therian somewhere in the world. I do not think of creatures as "lesser" or " higher", I believe that animals and humans are on the same level, but humans think otherwise.

When you're an adult (as in the legal age), you'll see how you feel. I don't really care how it turns out for you, but in my opinion you'll probably change your mind. But if you're still a therian, by all means, go ahead and live in a forest. Also, what I meant was that it's WAAAAAYYY more likely for someone to be an insect therian than a wolf therian, judging by relative populations. Plus, if you're still figuring out how souls work and things like that, why believe in therianthropy?

Originally Posted by pojmaster17q

Plus, if you're still figuring out how souls work and things like that, why believe in therianthropy?

Because therianthropy isn't just about souls, it also includes a physiological connection.

i made a large paragraph centering on your trip to Canada and your hunting technique, and found it way to insulting and deleted it. I just want to know if you ever have stalked and killed something significant or gone hunting at least. how do you feel connect to nature? I'm a big hunter and am currently during archery and i know that you cant even poke an animal that's alive with a stick, might be able to stab a bird nesting on the ground but that's about it. had a raccoon challenge me before out back though i was gonna take his food, bared his teeth with his buddy and stood up on its hind legs, my bow sight was on its chest the whole time and when i advanced it ran but that was the only time i think i've could of tried to stab an animal (it would of chased me if i had started running and then i could of turned around and stabbed it) but really how do you plan on killing something without a gun or a bow? do you have any experience with nature?

Originally Posted by Soldier

i made a large paragraph centering on your trip to Canada and your hunting technique, and found it way to insulting and deleted it. I just want to know if you ever have stalked and killed something significant or gone hunting at least. how do you feel connect to nature? I'm a big hunter and am currently during archery and i know that you cant even poke an animal that's alive with a stick, might be able to stab a bird nesting on the ground but that's about it. had a raccoon challenge me before out back though i was gonna take his food, bared his teeth with his buddy and stood up on its hind legs, my bow sight was on its chest the whole time and when i advanced it ran but that was the only time i think i've could of tried to stab an animal (it would of chased me if i had started running and then i could of turned around and stabbed it) but really how do you plan on killing something without a gun or a bow? do you have any experience with nature?

I didn't say I wasn't going to use a bow, that's what I plan on using. I'm sure I would become better at hunting over time, I would hunt only when I actually need to, not for fun or sport. I have little experience with nature, but as I said before, I would get better over time. Instinct and common sense would likely kick in and it would make it a whole lot easier.