Thread: Ask me about Therianthropy

It's hard to dispute things like this with science because there are a lot of spiritual aspects, but there's some stuff I gotta say.

1. Why is it always a wolf or some other extremely popular animal? This is the first flag that goes up for me. I've met a lot of people who have this whole therian thing goin' on and they're always a wolf or a dragon, more so a wolf. It's annoying.

2. If you have the mind set of a wolf or soul or whatever the fuck you wanna call it, basically if your psychology matched that a of a wolf, then you would most likely be acting way different than you probably already are. Now I don't know how you act in real life or if you go into wolf mode or something, but if you did then things like pack mentality would come into play. Who's your pack leader? Are you a pack leader? Do you search for a mate? Do you search for food? Don't you get a lot of frustrated, pent up energy from being at home or do you go for 10 mile long walks in search of food? Do you flip out at the feel of your clothes? Has anyone ever challenged you? Did you try to dominate them or anyone else? Have you ever rolled over and submitted to someone? Do you roll around in things like animal feces to bring the scents back to the pack? Do you pee around your house to mark your territory?
Do you see where I'm going with this? If you had the mindset of a wolf then you'd be very dumbed down from your human mindset. If you had the mindset of a wolf, you'd probably be in a mental asylum right now due to strange behaviour.

Now I've got a book on power animals/totem animals and I'm a little spiritual myself, but I think this goes too far. There is some science that has to be mixed in, like the behaviour aspects I mentioned.
Humans are similar to wolves in some ways, yes, but very general ways. Like we're both social animals.

Go watch The Wolfman on the discovery channel and tell me if you act like him. He's a cool fucking guy but at least he knows he's doing it as a human and that he doesn't have a 'wolf's soul'.

P.S. It says in your profile you're a vegetarian. I thought you were a wolf.
Oh and don't forget, if you're the pack leader you have to eat the heart and other important organs during meal time!

OHH AND ANOTHER THING. What kind of wolf are you? Do you live where I live? Then you'd be a coastal wolf and hunt a lot of fish and know how to swim really well. Are you a mexican wolf? Do you live in the prairies? What will your main game be? Where will your niche be?

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

It's hard to dispute things like this with science because there are a lot of spiritual aspects, but there's some stuff I gotta say.

1. Why is it always a wolf or some other extremely popular animal? This is the first flag that goes up for me. I've met a lot of people who have this whole therian thing goin' on and they're always a wolf or a dragon, more so a wolf. It's annoying.

I've answered this before

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Who's your pack leader? Are you a pack leader?

I do not yet have a pack leader and I do not know if I'm really alpha material, I could be though

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Do you search for a mate?

Doesn't everybody, I have never dated before nor have I really been attracted to anyone before, not even a small crush, which I find pretty weird. I'd rather date another therian like myself, but therians are pretty spread out around the world, so it makes things harder.

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Do you flip out at the feel of your clothes?

No, because I like to say that my clothes make up for the fur I do not have.

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Has anyone ever challenged you? Did you try to dominate them or anyone else? Have you ever rolled over and submitted to someone?

I do this with my sister all the time

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Do you roll around in things like animal feces to bring the scents back to the pack? Do you pee around your house to mark your territory?
Do you see where I'm going with this? If you had the mindset of a wolf then you'd be very dumbed down from your human mindset. If you had the mindset of a wolf, you'd probably be in a mental asylum right now due to strange behaviour.

There is no reason for me to act like that, I was raised human, so behavioral things like that do not show.

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Go watch The Wolfman on the discovery channel and tell me if you act like him. He's a cool fucking guy but at least he knows he's doing it as a human and that he doesn't have a 'wolf's soul'.

Yeah I've seen him and he's one of my heroes. He might have to go through a mental shift to act the way he does, physiological connections may come to play.

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

P.S. It says in your profile you're a vegetarian. I thought you were a wolf.
Oh and don't forget, if you're the pack leader you have to eat the heart and other important organs during meal time!

The only reason I do not eat meat is because I'm against animal abuse, I plan on eating meat when I go to Canada though.

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

OHH AND ANOTHER THING. What kind of wolf are you? Do you live where I live? Then you'd be a coastal wolf and hunt a lot of fish and know how to swim really well. Are you a mexican wolf? Do you live in the prairies? What will your main game be? Where will your niche be?

I'm a Eastern Gray Wolf, I want to move to Canada to live in the forests there, but I am currently living in Georgia. My main game would probably be deer or caribou.

Originally Posted by WolfTsunade

I do not yet have a pack leader and I do not know if I'm really alpha material, I could be though

So do you get frustrated not having any rules? Wolves and dogs both need rules if they are not pack leaders. If there is no pack leader and no one else steps in, they'll take on that role whether they want to or not.

Originally Posted by WolfTsunade

Doesn't everybody, I have never dated before nor have I really been attracted to anyone before, not even a small crush, which I find pretty weird. I'd rather date another therian like myself, but therians are pretty spread out around the world, so it makes things harder.

A wolf will ignore family ties and mate with their brother/sister, mother/father, etc. Would you do something like that?

Originally Posted by WolfTsunade

I do this with my sister all the time

Do you bite, snarl and growl? Do you bite her if she does something you don't want her to do? Do you submit to her? Are you dominant over her or is she dominant over you? Do you two jaw spar?

Originally Posted by WolfTsunade

There is no reason for me to act like that, I was raised human, so behavioral things like that do not show.

Well you said you had the mindset of a wolf and that you can mental shift into a wolf or whatever, so it would make sense for those behaviors to show. Don't pick and choose because some behaviors seem gross.

Originally Posted by WolfTsunade

Yeah I've seen him and he's one of my heroes. He might have to go through a mental shift to act the way he does, physiological connections may come to play.

I doubt there's any mental shift there or physiological connections. Not in your therian sense. I do that with my dog and it's pretty damn easy. The whole time I know I'm a human just acting like a dog. It's like when someone speaks the language of a different culture. They aren't a member of that culture, just mimicking their ways so there is an understanding between them. They don't have the 'soul' of that culture or the people there and I don't have the 'soul' of a dog.

Originally Posted by WolfTsunade

The only reason I do not eat meat is because I'm against animal abuse, I plan on eating meat when I go to Canada though.

Have you ever eaten meat before? If you haven't, then you could get sick the first time because your body isn't used to it.

Originally Posted by WolfTsunade

I'm a Eastern Gray Wolf, I want to move to Canada to live in the forests there, but I am currently living in Georgia. My main game would probably be deer or caribou.

Eastern Gray Wolves mostly hunt moose and deer, sometimes beavers. Where in Canada do you plan to move? Caribou live pretty far up north depending on where you're going to live.

when you vomit, do you wait for others to leave before you.... you know, 'reuptake' it?

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

So do you get frustrated not having any rules? Wolves and dogs both need rules if they are not pack leaders. If there is no pack leader and no one else steps in, they'll take on that role whether they want to or not.

True, but since I do not have a pack yet, I rule myself.

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

A wolf will ignore family ties and mate with their brother/sister, mother/father, etc. Would you do something like that?

They only do that for survival and it is not necessary for me to do that.

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Well you said you had the mindset of a wolf and that you can mental shift into a wolf or whatever, so it would make sense for those behaviors to show. Don't pick and choose because some behaviors seem gross.

There is no reason for me to do those things and I do not pick behaviors.

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Have you ever eaten meat before? If you haven't, then you could get sick the first time because your body isn't used to it.

Yeah, I have eaten meat for 13-14 years until I stopped about 3 years ago.

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Eastern Gray Wolves mostly hunt moose and deer, sometimes beavers. Where in Canada do you plan to move? Caribou live pretty far up north depending on where you're going to live.

I don't know exactly where in Canada I plan on moving, I'm thinking pretty far up north but not to close to the arctics.

when you vomit, do you wait for others to leave before you.... you know, 'reuptake' it?

Why would I want to do that? If there is enough food for everyone to eat, then there is no reason to give up your own.

Originally Posted by WolfTsunade

Why would I want to do that? If there is enough food for everyone to eat, then there is no reason to give up your own.

Well when you eventually have kids, will you regurgitate food for them?

And you didn't answer all the questions in my post. This is all very interesting and I would like everything cleared up that I'm confused or curious about.

Don't you get a lot of frustrated, pent up energy from being at home or do you go for 10 mile long walks in search of food?

A wolf wouldn't waste energy traveling a far ways for food when it has some in the refrigerator/nearby.

Well when you eventually have kids, will you regurgitate food for them?

I would say this again, why would I when they have food?

Do you bite, snarl and growl? Do you bite her if she does something you don't want her to do? Do you submit to her? Are you dominant over her or is she dominant over you? Do you two jaw spar?

Hitting her is a substitute instead of using my teeth, I do not want to break my teeth. I try not to submit to her and neither of us are dominant over each other.

I like how you only pick the convenient ways to act like a wolf.

Originally Posted by pojmaster17q

I like how you only pick the convenient ways to act like a wolf.

Are you being sarcastic?

You have the body of a human

You have the intelligence of a human

You live exactly like a human and not a wolf

You are a human, not a wolf

You want to be a wolf

You are a human who wants to be a wolf

Originally Posted by WolfTsunade

Are you being sarcastic?

He's stating the facts

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

You have the body of a human

You have the intelligence of a human

You live exactly like a human and not a wolf

You are a human, not a wolf

You want to be a wolf

You are a human who wants to be a wolf

If it'd make you happy you can say that, but I believe what I want and no one tells me otherwise.

Originally Posted by pojmaster17q

I like how you only pick the convenient ways to act like a wolf.

You make a good point.

Like how I mentioned you won't pee around your house to mark your territory. You as a human might not think it necessary, but since you have the mindset of a wolf, you should find it very natural, instinctual, and necessary.

Originally Posted by WolfTsunade

Are you being sarcastic?

Yes. I'll make a note that you're sarcastically impaired.

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

You make a good point.

Like how I mentioned you won't pee around your house to mark your territory. You as a human might not think it necessary, but since you have the mindset of a wolf, you should find it very natural, instinctual, and necessary.

I'm not against doing it, I do see it necessary at keeping other animals away, but where I live currently, there are really no animals to keep away from my house. I wouldn't do it around the house I live in now, but I was thinking about doing it when I finished with my cabin in Canada.

Yes. I'll make a note that you're sarcastically impaired.

I can tell sarcasm, it's harder to tell when you can't hear the person's voice.

If anyone is going to be sceptical, at least be mature about it. I dislike to see cynicism bordering insults, which is how some of the posts have been unnecessarily pushed, so please stop that.

My personal views on this topic are mixed.
I feel a strange affinity to wolves, though thinking about it, it seems to stem from the beauty and ferocity of a wolf, and the link to the moon.

Wolves I think well resemble that mostly constrained animalism within me, and I think they do to many others as well. I think certain animals/creatures are popular because of the danger to us they may impose - wolves, dragons, snakes, sharks, tigers etc.
I'd think there's a link between breaking free of social/human ideals and the freedom that these animals have partially because of their *superiority* to us physically and their lack of formal complexities.

I am inclined towards that it is the infatuation with this that forwards the other animal traits, such as marking territory, generally maintaining the basic persona etc.

Originally Posted by ClouD

My personal views on this topic are mixed.
I feel a strange affinity to wolves, though thinking about it, it seems to stem from the beauty and ferocity of a wolf, and the link to the moon.

A good way of putting it fo' sho'.
I'm sure a lot of people have very strong relationships with one species or another because they identify with them. I've got mine with canines. When I'm around them I tend to act like them, but I feel that it's just so I can control them and understand them, not that there's a mental shift and their soul inhabits me, etc.
I also have an affinity with bison because they, to me, represent my home (Saskatchewan). I've had a few very good encounters with them and I think that some animals can sense that affinity and trust we hold to them and thus act positively. A lot of dogs I meet are very calm and trusting around me.
But I still feel that you've taken it just a bit too far, WolfTsunade. It's mostly the soul aspect and the different shifts, especially the physical shift, that I can't wrap my head around. I've had a lot of questions answered though, so thanks for that.

When you get into university and such, if you go, you should take the road of biology so if the therian lifestyle doesn't work out, at least you can become a biologist like Ian McAllister, for example. He did some work and documentaries on the Coastal Wolves here and wrote a book called the Last of the Wild Wolves (it's great and there's a DVD in the back which either IS the Coastal Wolves docu. or has footage from it).

There is one thing that makes me very happy about your beliefs: they aren't hurting anyone. It's basically a religion, but one that is non-believer friendly. A lot of other religions, big and small, have hurt a lot of people and especially target non-believers.

Originally Posted by WolfTsunade

I'm not against doing it, I do see it necessary at keeping other animals away, but where I live currently, there are really no animals to keep away from my house. I wouldn't do it around the house I live in now, but I was thinking about doing it when I finished with my cabin in Canada.

You say you don't do things that aren't necessary, but really, is doing anything like a wolf necessary?

Originally Posted by WolfTsunade

I can tell sarcasm, it's harder to tell when you can't hear the person's voice.

I thought it was obvious. I was saying that I liked something which I implied was bad, by saying you just do things that are convenient.

Originally Posted by pojmaster17q

You say you don't do things that aren't necessary, but really, is doing anything like a wolf necessary?

Maybe to you it isn't

It's mostly the soul aspect and the different shifts, especially the physical shift, that I can't wrap my head around.

You do not have to worry about physical shifts since it's impossible anyway.



I do not plan on going to college because I do not think it is necessary, though my parents may force me to go anyway. Even if I wasn't a therian, I would still move up to Canada and live in the woods to escape from the unnecessary problems humans put on themselves.

Originally Posted by WolfTsunade

Maybe to you it isn't

You're avoiding my question. You only do the things that a wolf might do that are easy and convenient to do for a human. Then you say you don't do things like mark your territory, join a pack, mate with members of your family, and other things like that because they're unnecessary. You essentially role-play a watered-down version of a wolf. None of the things you actually do are necessary for survival, and a wolf wouldn't do them either if they were in your position. However, if you think a wolf WOULD do the things you do, you can't just ignore the rest of a wolf's natural activities. Don't be so selective.

Originally Posted by WolfTsunade

I do not plan on going to college because I do not think it is necessary, though my parents may force me to go anyway. Even if I wasn't a therian, I would still move up to Canada and live in the woods to escape from the unnecessary problems humans put on themselves.

It's funny, because I have some of the same viewpoints as you (college is technically unnecessary, people bring unnecessary problems upon themselves, it would be nice to live away from society) but for completely different reasons. I won't go off-topic though.

Originally Posted by WolfTsunade

If it'd make you happy you can say that, but I believe what I want and no one tells me otherwise.

and this is where the bane of religion gets its foothold...

This is the closest thing to a human wolf in my opinion. There have been quite a few cases of humans being raised by animals. The humans think they are the particular animal they were raised by because they have a limited scope of reality. These people truly are wolves mentally, but not physically. The only reason we believe we are humans is because we were taught so and grew up around humans.

I do not and will not respect you or your beliefs until you quit living your life of human luxury and go out and be a wolf. Wolves don't go to the supermarket, wolves don't take showers, wolves don't open doors, wolves don't use complex verbal and written language to communicate, wolves don't get an education, and wolves most definitely never use the internet to pass the time. If you "have the spirit of a wolf" then I'm certain you'd be more motivated to cast down everything human and join your fellow hunters on the icy tundra. If you live like a human, have the intelligence of a human, and you are a human by biology, then you are not a wolf, you are a human.

So basically: Live like a wolf or your beliefs remain laughable even from a religious standpoint.

PS. Your parents can't force you to get a college education.

Originally Posted by ClouD

If anyone is going to be sceptical, at least be mature about it. I dislike to see cynicism bordering insults, which is how some of the posts have been unnecessarily pushed, so please stop that.

My personal views on this topic are mixed.
I feel a strange affinity to wolves, though thinking about it, it seems to stem from the beauty and ferocity of a wolf, and the link to the moon.

Wolves I think well resemble that mostly constrained animalism within me, and I think they do to many others as well. I think certain animals/creatures are popular because of the danger to us they may impose - wolves, dragons, snakes, sharks, tigers etc.
I'd think there's a link between breaking free of social/human ideals and the freedom that these animals have partially because of their *superiority* to us physically and their lack of formal complexities.

I am inclined towards that it is the infatuation with this that forwards the other animal traits, such as marking territory, generally maintaining the basic persona etc.

I've got the same feeling for Eagles (obviously). They are similar to my persona in that they soar high above all the other creatures, seeing everything, looking for targets and opportunities to strike and achieve their goal.

I'm closing this thread at the request of the OP.

Reasoning is that most of the people posting in it aren't asking much, but commenting on the beliefs and mostly their strangeness.