Thread: Having trouble realizing I'm dreaming\

I'll add the other point of view.
Stuff all of that suggestion nonsense and belief stuff, because it doesn't work. Maybe it works for some people but I can tell you, unless your one of those people, it's like beating your head against a brick wall. You can think about lucid dreams all day and believe your a master lucid dreamer until the cows come home but it doesn't work. I certainly cannot placebo myself and I don't believe anyone else can either, because somewhere in your mind you know your not a master lucid dreamer.
My advice is give up on all the belief and awareness stuff and do something constructive and involved like FILD or WILD. (DEILD maybe?)

Originally Posted by Duo

I'll add the other point of view.
Stuff all of that suggestion nonsense and belief stuff, because it doesn't work. Maybe it works for some people but I can tell you, unless your one of those people, it's like beating your head against a brick wall. You can think about lucid dreams all day and believe your a master lucid dreamer until the cows come home but it doesn't work. I certainly cannot placebo myself and I don't believe anyone else can either, because somewhere in your mind you know your not a master lucid dreamer.
My advice is give up on all the belief and awareness stuff and do something constructive and involved like FILD or WILD. (DEILD maybe?)

You base all this "advice" on your personal experience? What about the countless reports that says that belief, positivitism and auto-suggestions actually work?

There's different kinds of methods and they work differently for every person. Just try them all out and see which one suits you, but you shouldn't stick with one forever and give the rest the finger. I decided not to get involved into WILD'ing since I had a hard time relaxing, but I'm starting to look into it more now that I've been able to up my Lucidity count by about 10 per month since starting using only DILD and MILD.

Try most of them out, see which one fits you at the moment and practice it. Intend to get Lucid, and believe that you can.

Originally Posted by Duo

I'll add the other point of view.
Stuff all of that suggestion nonsense and belief stuff, because it doesn't work. Maybe it works for some people but I can tell you, unless your one of those people, it's like beating your head against a brick wall. You can think about lucid dreams all day and believe your a master lucid dreamer until the cows come home but it doesn't work. I certainly cannot placebo myself and I don't believe anyone else can either, because somewhere in your mind you know your not a master lucid dreamer.
My advice is give up on all the belief and awareness stuff and do something constructive and involved like FILD or WILD. (DEILD maybe?)

I respect that this is your point of view, but don't just waive mine like its unimportant because it didn't work for you.
What I, and the other posters in this thread suggested, does work. Not for you, and you are entitled to say that. But you can't just say that none of it works because it didn't work for you.
I know you are not an asshole, coming on here just to be an asshole. But don't say other people's advice doesn't work.

Originally Posted by Origami

I respect that this is your point of view, but don't just waive mine like its unimportant because it didn't work for you.
What I, and the other posters in this thread suggested, does work. Not for you, and you are entitled to say that. But you can't just say that none of it works because it didn't work for you.
I know you are not an asshole, coming on here just to be an asshole. But don't say other people's advice doesn't work.

Just to make it clear, I was in an incredibly bad mood when I posted that, so you have my apologies. (I should also point out that WILD and FILD don't work for me either, nothing does).