Thread: What to do on the WBTB ?

Whats the timer method exactly?

And the stop drop and roll?

Originally Posted by Origami

Whats the timer method exactly?

And the stop drop and roll?

I can't post links because I have not been member long enough
But make a youtube search for: Lucidology 101 timer so you find the timer, but don't listen to everything he say the "Relaxation method" he metntions for example, because that is only if you can't fall asleep immeditelly, if you find that you can fall asleep after you awakening, you might try some of that.

But here is the Timer Method:

First you WBTB for 5-6 hours , then you go back to sleep and have a timer/alarm to wake you up in 4 minute intervalls 8, 4, 8, 12, 16, 20 .SP or lucidity here. 20 and here (I use the Iphone app 12,24 Alarm) but on the Lucidology site there are free timers mp3, flash timer to play on your computer an some other alarms. Anyway all you have to do is to fall asleep when the alarm wakes you.
and on every awakening make sure that you are laying completely still and have your eyes closed, and I have also noticed that I sometimes have a strong feeling of failure or to give up, just fall asleep and the timer will do the rest. If you want to have an explanation to why this happends watch his video. It's like a DEILD, but with much more control, but I would call this an EILD because I am not doing anything except falling asleep. Stop Drop and Roll is a RELAXATION technique, it's not used to induce sleep paralysis! It's used to fall asleep.

Every time I use this and do everything above correct, I allways either wake up in sleep paralysis OR wake up in a dream lucid.

And also this is what made this technique NOT work for me:
Too low volume so the alarm did not wake me up (Have some test nights just to see if the alarms really wake you up)
Disturbed other sleepers so I had to stop (I got a pillow with a speaker that only I can hear the sounds from, but you can also use a mp3 with earphones)
I couldn't fall back to sleep (Use some of the Lucidology relaxation techniques)

Originally Posted by Choi

But here is the Timer Method:

First you WBTB for 5-6 hours , then you go back to sleep and have a timer/alarm to wake you up in 4 minute intervalls 8, 4, 8, 12, 16, 20 .SP or lucidity here. 20 and here (I use the Iphone app 12,24 Alarm) but on the Lucidology site there are free timers mp3, flash timer to play on your computer an some other alarms. Anyway all you have to do is to fall asleep when the alarm wakes you.
and on every awakening make sure that you are laying completely still and have your eyes closed, and I have also noticed that I sometimes have a strong feeling of failure or to give up, just fall asleep and the timer will do the rest. If you want to have an explanation to why this happends watch his video. It's like a DEILD, but with much more control, but I would call this an EILD because I am not doing anything except falling asleep. Stop Drop and Roll is a RELAXATION technique, it's not used to induce sleep paralysis! It's used to fall asleep.

Every time I use this and do everything above correct, I allways either wake up in sleep paralysis OR wake up in a dream lucid.

Sounds good. I'll have a look into it.