Communicating with dream characters

**Olysseus** · 08-15-2011 06:05 PM

I've been thinking about some old posts about communicating with dream characters....whenever i've tried to tell a character in a dream that I am dreaming, there seems to be a negative reaction. Seems others have had this happen too.

I wondered whether there might be a different way to go about it. I decided that I would try saying something like this to a dc: "Did you know that right now I am experiencing all this as a dream? I remember going to sleep in a whole other life and now I find myself here. Is it possible that we are in my own dream?"

It seemed to work, the dream characters at least listened to me and heard me out. Unfortunately the dream faded and I woke up soon after.

My idea was that first of all, a dc is not able to swallow a claim that its all a dream, so just bringing it up as a possibility, from my own point of view would be less threatening to the dc. Also, there is a possibility that the dc is not experiencing the moment as a dream, and I could be wrong to tell a dc that they are a mere projection of my dream. For example, a dc, could be the representative of another part of my consciousness. This is a bad example but I'll try - Imagine my stomach is uneasy because of something I ate. It needs to send me a message not to eat a certain kind of food. It begins sending messages to my brain. My sleeping brain perceives it as a dream character. This is the important point, because if I tell this energy, which I percieve as a dream character that it is nothing but a projection of my dream, than that organ or function of my consciousness "thinks" I am lying to avoid its message and reacts accordingly. I don't mean to anthropomorphise my functions too much, I am just trying to come up with an example of why telling a dc that they are a mere dc might in fact be wrong. There are transient energies passing through my being that I perceive as dream characters. The transient energy may not be sharing my experience as being in a dream so when I speak to it and tell it that it is a dream character, it reacts negatively and maybe even menacingly, even though it has no choice of its own.

So I had a rather long lucid dream, for me, and at the end I fly high upon a building to overlook a lake surrounded by clumps of tall trees. I see a hiker below following two other hikers. I fly down to talk. The hikers greet me and I ask the last one his name. He says it is "Berry Master" (Strange, I know). I try to tell him what I had been thinking about. I wave my hand over the lake and say something like, "Did you know that all of this energy is being perceived by me as a dream? I feel like I laid down to sleep and then started perceiving everything as if it were a dream. All the energy that we are sharing right now is coming to me in a dream. The lake, the trees, even you, right now is being seen by me as a dream..." Anyhow I don't remember everything I said to him, but he and the two other hikers seemed to listen attentively. I finally tried to ask them if they knew who I was and then the dream suddenly faded and I woke up.

It was the first time I had ever been able to tell a random dream character that I was dreaming without any expression of disbelief or negativity. I'll keep trying this for a while and post if anything more comes out of it. I think that these dream characters are the manifestations of other parts of my body, or functions of certain internal organs and could perhaps give me information about the health of my body. Its just a working hypothesis, don't know if anything will really come of it. The main point is that I merely perceive them as dream characters so it could be wrong to tell them that that is in fact what they are. Any thoughts?

**Ladusence** · 08-15-2011 06:13 PM

:O I think it really depends on how you expect them to react, I've had an conversation about being in a dream with a DC who was a good friend of me in real life (he is really open to a lot of things) so he reacted just as I expected of him. He questioned if I truly was dreaming but he went along with it. But usually when I tell my parents that it is a dream they don't react and just stop talking to me, which probably is also related to my expectations of their reaction.

**bassdreamer** · 08-16-2011 12:50 AM

I don't think there is a way around this. In a lucid dream last night I had the same thing happen with a dc. However I remember reading in a book called Lucid Dreaming: gateway to the inner self, the author explains that it is better to ask DC what they represent rather than telling them that you are dreaming them. When you do this you supposedly get interesting responses and learn something about yourself. I need to remember to try this in my next lucid. Anyways, its a really interesting book. I recommend it to anyone who wants to use lucid dreaming as a tool for self improvement.

**Olysseus** · 08-16-2011 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by Ladusence

:O I think it really depends on how you expect them to react, I've had an conversation about being in a dream with a DC who was a good friend of me in real life (he is really open to a lot of things) so he reacted just as I expected of him. He questioned if I truly was dreaming but he went along with it. But usually when I tell my parents that it is a dream they don't react and just stop talking to me, which probably is also related to my expectations of their reaction.

Yes, that makes sense now that I think about it. I am sure expectations had something to do with it, since I was trying something different and expecting a different result.

What Bassdreamer said also seems right, that telling a dc that you are dreaming them doesn't work well. Its probably a combination of expectations and languaging.

**Fedd** · 08-16-2011 02:33 AM

i remember that on at least one or two occasions i became lucid and there were a couple of dcs around
i went "hey this is a dream! and i am happy that you are all in in it!" or "and i am happy that you are here with me" or something.. they all cheered and gave high fives and so on haha

so yeah i guess its language + expectation..

Anyhow, when lucid I often have the feeling that DCs are useless, then I dont really care much about them.. they never really gave any useful responses.. I mean ok, i guess it can be fun talking to them.. but it seems like a law of the dreamplane that DCs are either stupid or just not speaking at all..
Anyway.. I guess every (dream-)situation is different.. so do what feels right

**faceonmars** · 08-16-2011 02:46 AM

I avoid conversations with DC's for the simple reason that it takes to much thought. Thinking too much will end a LD. But that's just me. They also can say things that tend to make me question my own instincts. I had a little girl come up to me recently and ask if I was dead. I immediately woke up. So it goes.

**Marm** · 08-16-2011 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by faceonmars

I avoid conversations with DC's for the simple reason that it takes to much thought. Thinking too much will end a LD. But that's just me. They also can say things that tend to make me question my own instincts. I had a little girl come up to me recently and ask if I was dead. I immediately woke up. So it goes.

I generally avoid all DCs. Look at how crazy they are in Inception.

**zhineTech** · 08-18-2011 12:07 AM

Originally Posted by bassdreamer

However I remember reading in a book called Lucid Dreaming: gateway to the inner self, the author explains that it is better to ask DC what they represent rather than telling them that you are dreaming them. When you do this you supposedly get interesting responses and learn something about yourself. I need to remember to try this in my next lucid. Anyways, its a really interesting book. I recommend it to anyone who wants to use lucid dreaming as a tool for self improvement.

i was inspired by this same book to start asking my DCs those types of questions. i finally did in an LD and it was comically, poetically awesome.

"... i stretch and push on the walls until the area is a little better fit for me, but it's still pretty tight. there are several characters there, and i know they are some kind of covert operations team preparing for a mission. its like a secret tunnel beneath the island. they are like lego characters and it all seems very "8-bit" so to speak. i remember that i am supposed to talk to a DC and i ask them what they represent. they reply as one "your need for adventure!" which i find very amusing."

GLD.skydive.islandCastle - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

**bihon** · 08-20-2011 08:23 PM

Asking the DC's what they represent?
I should try that.. hehe..

I generally ignore my DC's, because they usually tend to ignore me, they're quite a bore too. Most of my DC's don't talk either, unless it's someone I know, or I talk to them, but when I do, the responses I get usually ranges from mumbling, or just no response at all. But in one lucid, I did try to tell my DC's that they were just figments of my imagination. So basically, I was running around in some place, stopping a DC here and there, but they did not give any positive nor negative reactions... They just stared at me blankly then continued to walk away, but the last DC I talked to, she replied - "I know!" with a smile. Confused me a bit... But I've been thinking, I think our DC's personalities depend on our mentality., how we view ourselves and the world around us.