I've got this lucid thing down, if only I could sleep . .

**Vampireboy** · 01-04-2012 12:52 PM

I seem to have a big problem that I was hoping the lovely people of DV could help me with. For the past week or so I have been reality checking on a regular basis and have been trying to attain lucidity by using a MILD/WBTB method. However, the past two nights I have been unable to fall asleep, I simply just lay there feeling completely awake. No amount of auto-suggestion, going to the toilet or running around like a loony seem to tire me out

Has anyone ever experienced a similar problem while trying to lucid dream, and if so how did you overcome it?

**Spyguy** · 01-04-2012 01:08 PM

Have you ever heard of void meditation? There is a tutorial on it in the DV Academy. I found that when I do that while lying in bed, I quikly fall asleep. The cause of your inability to sleep is most likely the fact that you are anxious about LDing, which is normal. Just relax. A lot of MILD tutorials say that you should try to MILD up to the point you actually lose conciousness, but this can also keep you awake. Do it for a while before going to sleep, and then relax. After all, LDing is easy. You WILL master it, no need to stay awake for it. Hope this helps!

**Vampireboy** · 01-04-2012 01:12 PM

Hey Spyguy
Thank you that's helped me greatly, good to know that i'm not alone

I'll have a look at the tutorial you recommended now, I guess you're right about being anxious but it is difficult for a relatively new lucid dreamer to remain calm and have that level of confidence that is key to MILDing, well I find it is anyway, could just be me . . .

**Spyguy** · 01-04-2012 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by Vampireboy

Hey Spyguy
Thank you that's helped me greatly, good to know that i'm not alone

I'll have a look at the tutorial you recommended now, I guess you're right about being anxious but it is difficult for a relatively new lucid dreamer to remain calm and have that level of confidence that is key to MILDing, well I find it is anyway, could just be me . . .

That's exactly right, but it'll work eventually. Could take a while, but it could also be tonight!

**Vampireboy** · 01-04-2012 01:21 PM

Just noticed when I did eventually collapse and fall asleep I did infact have a vivid dream, I only remembered it just now as I was scrolling through Youtube. Guess I should have stuck to my normal mantra of doing a reality check rather than just "fall asleep damnit

" then I might have turned that vivid dream into a lucid dream, my luck I guess

**ShadowOfSelf** · 01-04-2012 10:13 PM

What time do you go to bed and wake up? and what do you usually do 30mins-hour before you go to sleep?

**Vampireboy** · 01-05-2012 09:56 PM

Normally around 11ish with school and what not, and not much just normally on the PC and then off to unwind for bed

think I had these difficulties because my sleep pattern has been all over lately

**ShadowOfSelf** · 01-05-2012 10:54 PM

and what time do you wake up? Get of the computer/tv for min half hour before you go sleep, and keep a regular sleep schedule, should see improvements.

**elucid** · 01-06-2012 01:02 AM

Hey,

Try the below link for the this new method called FID, it is suggested that with this method, the attainment of lucid dreaming has been perfected as it gets you a lucid dream every night. You just need practice, it should also help with your sleeping problem.

http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/age-pe...nt-now-126570/