Thread: Any other time for practice?

Well, there's nothing that always works!!

The only way you're going to get more than one chance a day for WILD is either with naps or trying DEILD. That way you can try several attempts each day, at least on days when you can sleep in a bit.

Ill just dive into a nap WILD right now, and see how that works out. The only problem I have with DEILD's is not being able to remember my dream when I first wake up. I can remember a dream very vividly after 30 minutes or so, but my mind is too blurry to remember a dream I just woke up from. I should really put some practice into that.

You should create a mantra to make yourself wake remembering your dreams. When I wanted to try DEILDs I wrote in my DJ before bed "I will wake after each dream, remembering the dream, lie still with eyes closed, and go back into the dream". I also repeated it as a mantra several times as I was laying in bed. It worked like a charm - for a long time after that I always was able to remember my last dream and to lie still with my eyes closed. Only once did it work to make me go back into the same dream though - or wait, twice I think. But you know - your mileage may vary. If I can do it then anybody can, I'm the never gets lucid guy.

Naps are an excelent time for lucids, be it WILDs or DILDs.

You can always try to WBTB more than once at night.

The nap WILD didn't work too well. What happened is what always happens to me every time I wild. I get to the point when my body is numb, but I don't have the SP 'weight on my chest' thing. I just feel completely numb, and I see little bits of colors behind my eyes from time to time. Thats it. I did it for about 30 minutes and thats the results I got. Seems like I need to find away to push past this point, because this is always what I get to. Anyways I will keep trying, and see what happens tonight. Happy dreams guys. :3

Originally Posted by Oxium

...I can remember a dream very vividly after 30 minutes or so, but my mind is too blurry to remember a dream I just woke up from...

I actually really like that feeling. It gives me time to wake a bit and get my bearings and dream journal together while waiting for this grand movie to replay. Than it's "write like hell" to keep up with my memory!

Originally Posted by Oxium

What happened is what always happens to me every time I wild. I get to the point when my body is numb, but I don't have the SP 'weight on my chest' thing. I just feel completely numb, and I see little bits of colors behind my eyes from time to time.

Firstly, you should not want to aim for sleep paralysis, because that don't helps in WILDing unless you have an actual sleep disorder with same name, secondly, the sensations of falling asleep vary from person to person and you should not expect them to be something in particular, http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...ntry-wild.html
Also don't forget that you have to fall asleep while being aware for WILD, not stay awake.
Good luck with the next attempt!

Originally Posted by Checker666

...Also don't forget that you have to fall asleep while being aware for WILD, not stay awake...

I have heard this before, but I don't really grasp the concept. How do you 'fall asleep while staying awake' I think if I understood this it would really help me out. Can anyone explain the experience, because it seems like what I try for is making my body fall asleep and my mind stay concious, and I just came to the realization that that's not what you need to do. Thanks guys and happy dreaming.

HI, Oxium, I've never actually WILDed before but I have astral projected a few times now and technically they are the same up until you project or into a dream. From what i experience, after the numbing stage if I want to project i just relaxe more. now at that point of furthered relaxation, I begin to feel heavy vibrations. I think vibrations are common to every WILD experience, but as always some people may not get vibrations, which seems to be your case. I would suggest you take a further step and add some visualizations into your WILDing. that may be the key to jumping you from a trance state to the dream scape- just start to imagine. with that, I would recommend you remember to be lucid, because, from my experience, dreams tend to pop up as fast as you can blink, pulling you into a non-lucid state. I hope that helps man. OH... try some meditation with binaural beats for you WILDing. it could be that your just not relaxed enough or suh em. STAY LUCID!!!

Originally Posted by Oxium

I have heard this before, but I don't really grasp the concept. How do you 'fall asleep while staying awake'

When you falling asleep normally, your body and mind fall asleep pretty much at the same time.

When you WILDing, the trick is to let your body fall asleep, but keep your mind aware. While your mind is aware, you are noticing different sensations, that are signs of your body falling asleep.

Then, just at the right time you also let your mind fall asleep, but you keep your awareness. You can keep your awareness with anchors - mantras that keep you aware and connected to part of the brain that has daytime memories. So when you are in a lucid dream, you remember your 'other life' - the one happening during day.

You remember that you are asleep, your goals for LD, you notice the crazyness of the dream (in non-lucid you accept everything in your dream as normal).

Thanks Gab, I will WILD tonight with this information and post tomorrow of my journey, thanks and happy dreams :3

So yesterday, before bed I said the mantra "I will wake up at the right time, and successfully WILD". I ended up waking up at the right time, and I tried to WILD, but I got to where I always get, and decided to try it again on my side. That didn't work so I said 'it's fine, I'll try again tomorrow', and decided to go to bed. While I was trying to go to bed I just started to hear music playing, and then I get sucked into my dream. It kind of felt like I was spinning while moving really fast forward. I got in the dream, and did a nose pinch reality check, and I was lucid. It was pretty awesome, but the other amazing thing is when I woke up from that lucid. I used DEILD, and had another lucid dream. I didn't really try to DEILD, and infact I think it might have been the same lucid that just changed scenes. After those two lucid's I had one more dream where I was talking to my friends about how I became lucid in my other dreams, which was pretty ironic considering I didn't become lucid in that one lol. Thanks for all your help and tips guys. If it wasn't for you I probably wouldn't have had that awesome experience. Just wanted to type this because I had to get it out somewhere. :3

Originally Posted by Oxium

... and I was lucid. It was pretty awesome, but the other amazing thing is when I woke up from that lucid. I used DEILD, and had another lucid dream.

Congrats, Oxium! Keep reading posts, that's what helps me the most. And DJing.

Congrats!

I typed that paragraph this morning and didn't give a lot of details so I have some questions. When I went to actually fall asleep and I achieved "wild" I didn't really do it how it says it should be done. I really wasn't that aware, and I was really tired, so it was like a mix of WILD and DILD, because when I got into the dream and I did a reality check I knew that I was dreaming, but it didn't really click like it should have. Now that I look back at it, all of those dreams were really blurry and the transition between the dreams was even more so. I kind of combined techniques and I got something out of it. To me it seems more of a coincidence than an actual effort. So, i'm a bit upset. In any case I will keep trying to get it clear. If lucid dreaming was an instrument, and WILD a song I had to learn. It seems like this is the first time I played the song, and I made a couple mistakes, but I will in time be able to play it by heart. Probably a bad analogy, but felt like sharing anyways. :3 Thanks for the congratulations as well.

The way it says it should be done - it's just a guideline. Some of them are really good to follow (like don't WILD without prior sleep). But many of them are for you to adjust, so it works the best for you.

No two attempts will be the same, but there will be some constants. So each time you attempt, whether you achieve LD or not, will be a valuable lesson and tons of fun to do.

If you know you dreaming, it's a LD. But the level of awareness and control can vary greatly. Transition will be blurry, if you start to fall asleep and lose awareness quickly, if you just barely hanging on to awareness, transition and LD will be different than when you are fully aware. It's a battle to keep awareness.