Thread: Almost done FILD, help me!

Originally Posted by TheAssassin56

Well, i'm thinking of making it 4 hours instead of 5. to make myself more tired.

You might want to wake up in a REM stage. Try waking up after 6 hours. When you wake up in a REM state, you will most probably feel more tired and disoriented (sleepy, not fully awake, but conscious enough to pull off a FILD) and therefore you will almost instantly fall asleep again, which FILD is pointed at. This might help your alarm timing:
03sleepstagesonenight.jpg
If you don't wake up in a REM state, you can still fall asleep easily with sufficient relaxation. Just don't be too late to move your fingers before you fall asleep

Originally Posted by EasternSand

You might want to wake up in a REM stage. Try waking up after 6 hours. When you wake up in a REM state, you will most probably feel more tired and disoriented (sleepy, not fully awake, but conscious enough to pull off a FILD) and therefore you will almost instantly fall asleep again, which FILD is pointed at. This might help your alarm timing:
03sleepstagesonenight.jpg
If you don't wake up in a REM state, you can still fall asleep easily with sufficient relaxation. Just don't be too late to move your fingers before you fall asleep

I Didn't understand the attachment you have provided. but what if i run out of sleep and wake up? i realize that when someone forces me awake i feel the urge to go back to sleep, can i do it under 6 hours and still have a lengthy lucid dream?

Let me try to explain the attachment.
Sleep is divided into several stages, with REM (Rapid Eye Movement) being one of them. This is where your dreams are the most vivid ones, and where you're most likely to remember your dreams from. Also, if you wake up from a REM stage, you will most likely fall asleep really fast, as I said.
Look at the picture, it displays the time in hours on the horizontal axis and the sleeping stage in the vertical axis. Try to wake up at the last (and longest) stage of REM. It's between 5 and 6 hours of sleep. And of course, you might have different bed-times, but try to base your timing on this graph. Don't hesitate to ask if you still don't understand it.
And yes, you can wake up within 6 hours of sleep, but the REM stages aren't that lengthy then. But if you think you really have to wake up earlier, then do it, but your success rate can decrease. Just look at the graph and plan your alarm time. Always remember, even if you don't wake up in REM, you can still trigger a FILD.

Good luck!

Originally Posted by EasternSand

Let me try to explain the attachment.
Sleep is divided into several stages, with REM (Rapid Eye Movement) being one of them. This is where your dreams are the most vivid ones, and where you're most likely to remember your dreams from. Also, if you wake up from a REM stage, you will most likely fall asleep really fast, as I said.
Look at the picture, it displays the time in hours on the horizontal axis and the sleeping stage in the vertical axis. Try to wake up at the last (and longest) stage of REM. It's between 5 and 6 hours of sleep. And of course, you might have different bed-times, but try to base your timing on this graph. Don't hesitate to ask if you still don't understand it.
And yes, you can wake up within 6 hours of sleep, but the REM stages aren't that lengthy then. But if you think you really have to wake up earlier, then do it, but your success rate can decrease. Just look at the graph and plan your alarm time. Always remember, even if you don't wake up in REM, you can still trigger a FILD.

Good luck!

So basically, i will wake up after 5 hours 30 minutes and do it. the main purpose i got here is to actually succeed in the technique as i never have done it before, when that happens i will think more about the length and so. thanks for assisting me through this, i will give it a shot. even though i'm afraid of failing.