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    1. 08-25-2014 09:35 PM #1
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      Wake up time with WBTB

      Hey,

      I'm going to try WBTB out. I almost read every tutorial there's out here but they all keep telling me something different.
      Some tutorials tell me I have to wake up just before REM, during, or just after REM.
      It seems logical to me to wake up before a REM phase because if you're using a mantra while falling asleep again, it is fresh in your mind while you slip directly into REM.

      could you guys tell me what works the best for you (not how much hours of sleep, but before or after a rem period), or give me some scientific explanation?

      Thanks in advance
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    2. 08-27-2014 03:43 PM #2
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      Just before or at the beginning of / during would be the best I think. I've gotten woken up in the middle of a dream before and it's pretty easy to get back into if you don't move around, but the reason why people say after 5 / 6 hours of sleep is because the REM periods in the last couple of hours are so close together that it hardly matters.

      Good luck!
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    4. 08-28-2014 09:14 PM #4
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      Thank you! I think I'm going to try out what works the best for me.
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      Don't worry about REM, the important thing is to wake up in the morning, at least an hour before your normal wake up time.
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      Quote Originally Posted by cmind View Post
      Don't worry about REM, the important thing is to wake up in the morning, at least an hour before your normal wake up time.
      Okayy, thanks
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      It's probably best to train yourself to wake up naturally at random times in the night. You definitely don't want to have a groggy WBTB, which could be caused by an alarm. My success rate on those is very low. Waking up naturally gives you a better chance of waking up at the right point in the cycle I think.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zangetsu View Post
      It's probably best to train yourself to wake up naturally at random times in the night. You definitely don't want to have a groggy WBTB, which could be caused by an alarm. My success rate on those is very low. Waking up naturally gives you a better chance of waking up at the right point in the cycle I think.
      So far I got 2 small lucid dreams from WBTB (waking up with an alarm) a few weeks ago. Last few nights I tried the mantra 'I wake up after every dream', And woke up after 4:20 hours and after 6:10 hours every night (was trying out FILD). I guess I'll continue doing WBTB, despite school has started last week
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