Thread: Haven't been able to LD in the 3 months I've been trying!

I'm confused.

Do you mean,10pm tp 6am, or do you really sleep 16 hours per day?

Not sure, how's your awareness? Do you do your daytime work for LDing mindfully or in a zombie-like trance? That can make a huge difference.

I mean I wake up at 6-7am in the morning and go to bed at 10-11pm at night :p

For the first 2 months, I was mindful about it, but in the last month, it's became more of a zombie trance. Since I just feel no motivation to do it.

2 months of mindful practice and no LDs at all? Very odd. It's true that some people are less prone to lucidity than others, but it shouldn't be that extreme, unless you are awfully unlucky.

Originally Posted by TheConned

I've tried every method I've been able to find multiple times, and none of them have really worked. I started of with FILD, WILD, and DILD. Now I primarily focus on FILD and SSILD.

There are basically only two main ways to LDs, DILD and WILD, and they branch into various other ones. FILD and SSILD are variants of WILD, WILD is the more advanced method, suited for experienced, disciplined LDers who can focus and maintain their awareness for long periods of time, definitely not recommended for beginners. DILD is much more beginner friendly, which you said you tried. What exactly do you do for DILD? Have you been trying the same techniques for at least a few weeks, to give them enough time to sink it and have an effect?

don't waste your time on SSILD or WILD or FILD as a start, TheConned!
for beginners, WILD practices are nothing but to fall sleep like a dead corpse during the the first minutes of trying and it takes so much time to train your body and mind to cope with it.

SSILD is nothing but a way to increase your general awareness in your dreams and if you can't do WILD then you can't do SSILD to enter the dreams directly.

FILD is just for light sleepers and if you are a heavy sleeper like me, then you are doomed to fall sleep even if you move your whole hand instead of one finger.

i say this because i have been trying all these method in this year especially in these last 5 month and they were nothing but fail.
so you are not alone.

but as mimihigurashi said, you may want to put your effort on DILD which is a golden key for every beginner and even professional LDer but it may take at least 2 month to manifest in your dreams. 2 month is still nothing when it comes to having LD on a regular basis but it really worth trying and practicing because when you get used to it, you will have LD when ever you want.

Hi TheConned!
I know what you mean. I also tried for over three months when I started before I had my first lucid.
But after I had my first lucid, I was hooked forever...
As other people said, go basically for DILD. That's for beginners. And give it some time - don't change methods all the time. A great guide is Naiya's - stick with it.
But if you can't wait any longer and you don't mind experiencing an Out-of-body-like sensation, there is a method (Raduga's DEILD) that works great in the beginning - it can give immediate results, so you will experience your first lucids, even though after a while it seems to loose effectiveness (for me it worked amazingly but only for the first times). There is a free e-book. Then, you can resume your DILD attempts...
Good luck!

I think it's important to focus on the most basic fundamentals while practicing lucid dreaming.
What exactly is it that is important during your quest for lucidity?
One obvious part is your dream recall, since this is what allows you to remember the lucid dreams you have in the first place - so start with practicing that part, until your dream recall is excellent.
Once you have mastered that, you should make it a habit to be observant about your current situation, and realize that it is actually possible that you may be dreaming when you least expect it.
This is the attitude that you will want to practice - how can you tell for sure that you are awake right now?
Most people assume that their dreams are their waking lives, and always think that way whether they are awake or dreaming.
So no matter how silly it might feel, make sure you double-check your current situation every now and then, especially if you find yourself daydreaming or after you wake up from a nap or from sleep.
You might "know" that you are awake, but you can sometimes think that way in dreams as well - "meh, everything feels so realistic, obviously this is waking life" - but several people, including myself, have been fooled by that in past dreams.
So it doesn't hurt to double-check if you are even the slightest suspicious.
Try reading a piece of text, then look away and look back like 20 times or something;
if it remains exactly the same each time, you are most likely awake, because it is extremely hard for a dream to simulate the exactly same thing with flawless accuracy - especially if you get distracted by something else in the dream for a moment, since this technically makes that other thing you were focusing on stop existing - so this so-called "Reading Check" is a very good Reality Check for a lot of people.

Another good one is to try jumping higher than normal - if you can jump 10 feet straight up without any problem with both feet then you are certainly dreaming!

It can help when you have a solid goal to do when you get lucid. Like learn to fly or practice powers or whatever. Also with wbtb that your doing, make sure your sort of day dreaming a dream and doing reality checks realising its a dream, being it the last thing in your mind as you drift off. And say to yourself im dreaming, im dreaming in your mind.
Lastly belief has a strong effect, so have some belief it will work cause it will, it's a easy simple method that will work for you.

Well I think I had a similar problem, but for me it had been 1 month and 2 weeks, and even though I felt I did not have a LD, it blew my mind when some professionals analysed my situation and told me that I actually had 5 LUCID DREAMS! In fact, I had one just after 3 DAYS. In short, you may have been lucid, but haven't realized it. Any time you feel like you are dreaming, or if you have performed a reality check in dreams, I would say you are having a LD now, but not a vivid one. Of course, you would need awarness for that, since after waking your LD will feel like any other normal one. Beginner's LD feel just like that. I wish you good luck for your practices!