Thread: Would Something as SIMPLE as this work?

Just wondering why the following MILD technique would or would not work.

After WBTB i repeat the mantra ' the next time i open my eyes i will do a reality check '

Surley if prospective memory was good then we could lucid every time!

It seems logical but im guessing that im missing something.

Any advice welcome, thank you

This would work! Before doing the mantra, though, I think it would be good to reimagine your first memory of your last dream, only with you remembering to do a reality check upon seeing for the first time and becoming lucid. That way, you can learn from your mistakes and improve your prospective memory, rather than letting it stay stagnant.

I like this idea! I'll try it out.

This is simply not MILD.
the auto suggestion is only one part of the process.
Like dolphin said, you also must remember the previous dream, and imagine yourself becoming lucid in this remembered dream.
Also, the last thought before you fall asleep should be this thought, I guess if you only do the technique and then start to have random thought , it won't have any chances to work.

I think that could easily work and would be considered a MILD in my understanding of a MILD anyway.
I only ever use mantra for MILD and hardly ever use any visualisation (if ever) and I'm very successful with it.


It's actually very similar to what I do already.

I'll use PM throughout the day as in...
Each morning I'll think to myself "I'll remember the next time I see a dog", "I'll remember the next time I hear a car horn", stuff like that and if/when I see/hear said things hopefully I'll remember and RC.
Obviously I'll change the things each day so I know it's PM working and not just becoming habit.

After a short WBTB in the early morning if I feel I need one, I'll turn on my back and think to myself (just as I do when thinking of the PM objects in the day)
"I'll remember the next time I'm Dreaming".
I clear my mind the best I can and just repeat that to myself really trying to confirm it, gradually repeating it less and less as I let myself drift off to sleep.

I'll then drift in and out of consciousness until I hit a REM period and either...
Am already Lucid as a Dream forms around me...
Go through WILD sensations and get Lucid...
Or enter a non Lucid Dream but become Lucid within a few seconds.

I built that technique off something in one of Laberge's books and adapted it through trail and error, it works!
I can get Lucid using that technique every morning I try and don't need to keep a Dream journal or use any other usual techniques deemed necessary for LDing, though I do still RC throughout the day just so I think about LDing regularly and get some DILDS now and again.

Originally Posted by Mr0Blonde

I think that could easily work and would be considered a MILD in my understanding of a MILD anyway.
I only ever use mantra for MILD and hardly ever use any visualisation (if ever) and I'm very successful with it.


It's actually very similar to what I do already.

I'll use PM throughout the day as in...
Each morning I'll think to myself "I'll remember the next time I see a dog", "I'll remember the next time I hear a car horn", stuff like that and if/when I see/hear said things hopefully I'll remember and RC.
Obviously I'll change the things each day so I know it's PM working and not just becoming habit.

After a short WBTB in the early morning if I feel I need one, I'll turn on my back and think to myself (just as I do when thinking of the PM objects in the day)
"I'll remember the next time I'm Dreaming".
I clear my mind the best I can and just repeat that to myself really trying to confirm it, gradually repeating it less and less as I let myself drift off to sleep.

I'll then drift in and out of consciousness until I hit a REM period and either...
Am already Lucid as a Dream forms around me...
Go through WILD sensations and get Lucid...
Or enter a non Lucid Dream but become Lucid within a few seconds.

I built that technique off something in one of Laberge's books and adapted it through trail and error, it works!
I can get Lucid using that technique every morning I try and don't need to keep a Dream journal or use any other usual techniques deemed necessary for LDing, though I do still RC throughout the day just so I think about LDing regularly and get some DILDS now and again.

Id this not a WILD?

No, it can sometimes become a WILD and I'll hold on to consciousness all the way through.
Usually though I'll lose consciousness and drift in and out until I hit a REM.

The effectiveness would depend on the trigger "the next time i open my eyes." I'd guess it best fits with false awakenings and the like. But for other flavors of dreams, there might never be a moment where you subjectively experience "opening your eyes" either consciously or unconsciously.

Originally Posted by sisyphus

The effectiveness would depend on the trigger "the next time i open my eyes." I'd guess it best fits with false awakenings and the like. But for other flavors of dreams, there might never be a moment where you subjectively experience "opening your eyes" either consciously or unconsciously.

When we say ' next time im dreaming i will realize im dreaming' how does this work? Would we not have to become concious in the dream to actually know its a dream in the first place for this mantra to work?

How does the brain know that we are dreaming? All the mild mantras are like this for example 'i will realize im dreaming' 'next time i dream i wil reality check ' etc

Im just confused as to how that mantra can work if we dont actually know were dreaming ???

Originally Posted by ezzolucid

When we say ' next time im dreaming i will realize im dreaming' how does this work? Would we not have to become concious in the dream to actually know its a dream in the first place for this mantra to work?

How does the brain know that we are dreaming? All the mild mantras are like this for example 'i will realize im dreaming' 'next time i dream i wil reality check ' etc

Im just confused as to how that mantra can work if we dont actually know were dreaming ???

Fair question. Prospective memory and so many other mental faculties are mainly in the realm of the subconscious mind. Thus, what's really most important is what your subconscious mind interprets from the mantra. And that might (likely) be different from the literal meaning of the words as they appear in a dictionary. So when we say "the next time I am dreaming," the subconscious might actually hear "when I see a dreamsign" or "when I notice something surreal." And of course, those cues would depend on what you have previously established as dreamsigns or surreality. Or it could interpret something else. It all depends on the habitual and symbolic ideas that have taken root in one's subconscious, and that will be unique to each person.

Yeah I know what you mean, I've thought that before too.

I think it's actually more about the intent, rather than the mantra itself.
Laying in bed thinking to yourself I'll remember the next time I'm Dreaming over and over just seems to let your brain know that it's important.

You'll often get into a vivid, non Lucid Dream and within a few seconds click on and become Lucid.
If you've hit your REM period right it will be very close to when you've just fallen asleep and as you've been so determined to realise you're Dreaming just moments before, it seems to jolt your consciousness enough to question if your Dreaming or not, once that happens your in!


The other reason MILDS are such a good way to get Lucid is what you touched on before, you can sometimes get WILDS through them so it's a bit like two techniques in one.