Thread: Failed a Deild? Slip into a Wild! - Please critique

Originally Posted by ezzolucid

Goldenspark: When you wake up after REM sleep there is still a window of opportunity to slip into lucidity as the body is still in REM mode even though the mind has awoken, the key is to not move on awakening. Have you read 'The Phase'? The book is amazing and the author has personally taught 1000's of people easy lucid induction with his ' indirect methods. The book is also free

I watched the phase video. Very interesting! I get your point about not moving and going back into the dream. I am just starting to try that one. I do find it incredibly difficult to stay still just after I wake. I seem to always stretch and that kills the effect.
I do like that idea of moving your dream body and then rolling out the body completely. I have experienced a partial effect a bit like that a few times before, so in Ken to try that over the coming nights.

I used the techniques from The Phase to get lucid my first time. Something about his techniques really seemed to work for me. I guess because he gives you an algorithm to perform with lots of contingencies and that's totally how my brain works. I'm interested in hearing about your future results from mixing WILD into the attempts. I think I'm going to start trying this too and see how it works. I just gotta remember to actually fall asleep and not put too much emphasis on trying to WILD or I'll be awake forever lol.

I am currently attempting mixing the indirect techniques with SSILD instead of WILD, that way there is no staying awake for ages trying to Wild. I wbtb, then SSILD, then whenever i wake after that point i attemp the indirect techniques. Both SSILD and Michael Radugas ' indirect techniques' are touted as the most efficient highly reliable techniques for beginners and so this is where i am starting my journey

Will stick to it for at least 2 months and post results, good luck

Ezzo

I've been trying to get back into Raduga's indirect methods the last few nights. It's been several months since I thought about lucid dreaming though so it's going kinda slow. I did notice that trying to do these 2 techs in one night is just too much for me to focus on right now. I'm going to try a few weeks of the indirect tech only and if that goes well I'll gradually start adding contingencies to the mix like WILD, SSILD.

I've noticed that if I split my focus between too many new dreaming habits at once, I don't end up focusing enough on any of them. This leads to insomnia, and usually none of my intentions set very well in my subconscious so no LD thoughts during my dreams at all.

It might just be my inability to multitask well, but I thought I'd throw this out here for anyone planning on trying multiple techs at once. I'd suggest getting in the habit of doing one first and then gradually add more. At least that's what I plan on doing.