Attacking technique

**yaya** · 12-24-2016 07:04 PM

Hiiiii dear friends! I have returned to this forum after one year

....I missed you all....

I had many odd experiences about LD which i want to share one of them with you...it is also a new method for LD which you may like to be inspired by that....

when i read about Raduga technique, a personal method came into my mind. Raduga said that when you wake up in the morning, first try to get out of your body...but do it mentally...because your mind and body are in the best situation for LD. Also i have read somewhere else that when you wake up, your astral body is not yet merged to your body for some seconds ...so it came to my mind that i can create my own technique....

I said to myself that when i wake up every time during night and morning, i try to really wake up and sit in my bed even with my PHYSICAL BODY!!!!!!!!!!!! yes, even with my physical body....

so if i am in theta brain wave then no matter if i try to move mentally or physically, i will enter to dream world because i can't move my real physical body in dream because it is paralyzed...but if i sit with my physical body then i wasn't in proper state for LD...

an important thing is that i MUST try to do is to sit down when i wake up in less than 1 SECOND....very very quickly.....if i waste one more second then i will wake up in my real body....so i call it attacking technique....

I tried this method only 3 times...and i stopped it for one reason...my bad experiences...

the first time i tested it, it gave me an FA ..... but it was so real that i was scared when someone hit the door and disappeared....In dreams we are usually more brave than reality but i was as coward as i am in daily life using this technique...the second time it didn't work...the third time, after doing this method, although i woke up in my physical body and sat down but my brain wave was still in theta state and i saw 8 people in my room which made me to scream....it is said that sometimes our brain remain in theta state some seconds after we wake up and move our body...it is rare but it happened in my method due to its nature...these bad nightmares made me to stop using this technique but it may help to someone here who wants to have Adrenalin boost in blood

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So the summery of this Attacking technique is:

- have some hours of sleep
- wake up and stay awake for some minutes but when you want to sleep again remind yourself that you will wake up again several times....
- when you wake up, try to sit down even physically in less than 1 or 2 seconds...very quickly...like someone who wants to attack something....
- do RC as you might be dreaming...
- if nothing happened return back to sleep and remind yourself that you will wake up again and do this method....

So the most important difference between this method and Raduga's is that the first one is with even physical body but the second one is only mentally which is less efficient as many people are not good at visualization...if you get used to sit down with your real body then the other nights it become part of your subconscious mind and you will do it with your dream body as soon as you wake up....

thanks for reading

**Eonnn** · 12-24-2016 07:32 PM

Interesting, nice technique and welcome back!

**Venryx** · 01-01-2017 01:58 AM

Yeah, Raduga's technique has been working well for me (used it again just this morning, to get back into a lucid dream from two false-awakenings), but this idea is interesting as a variation of it.

It could help shave a few seconds off that I currently have to do using phantom wiggling and what-not to get out of bed "safely" (i.e. without moving my physical body); though yeah, I think to work the person has to do it very fast before the physical body fades in more, as I can and have moved my physical body if I move too quickly/heavily during false awakenings.

**Kaan** · 01-01-2017 07:26 AM

Interesting technique.
Though you said you use it because you are not good at visualizing (an action I guess), but in my own experience, you don't need to be able to visualize correctly for the "the phase" to happen.
If you do it at the exact good moment and under the exact right brain wave/chemical condition, the visualization process becomes very realist by itself and one second later you are in the dream.
At least this is the way it worked for me each time I managed to enter the phase, but I must admit it was under the influence of galantamin.
What I mean is that even though I wasn't able to visualize correctly my 3 chosen mental action, it didn't matter since when the WILD/DEILD window is ready it becomes easy, natural and very realistic for few second and it is enough to let you enter in the dream.

**Venryx** · 01-01-2017 10:05 PM

That matches with what I've seen too, Kaan. When you're in the right conditions, the visualization/imagined-movement they ask for is usually effort/strain-less, and succeeds quickly--at least for me. It's basically just shifting thought to your dream body and wiggling up/off for a few seconds.

Maybe there's just some psychological/physiological differences that make the range for successful imagined movement narrower for some people. (kind of like how some people fall asleep in like 5 minutes, whereas others (like me) have difficulty in getting it even under 30)