Thread: WBTB does it again

Having read this, I am, like, so going to have an LD tonight!

I'll let you know if it works out.

kool. i'll try it along with putting on that mp3 file thtas been floating about around here at like 4 in the morning.

I'm going to try the WBTB method tonight, the first lucid dream I had was a result of WBTB, but I have never tried walking about so I will aslo try that. Wish me luck!

I just got back from LaBerge's dream camp a few days ago and this is exactly the technique he had us practicing while we were there. Unfortunately for me, getting up around 4am seems to be a bit too late for me - I usually can't get back to sleep.

If any of you have this problem, try getting up a little earlier, like maybe 3am. Of course, a lot of this has to do with the time you go to bed and wake up. If you go to bed late and WBTB early (like between 2-3am), you won't catch the extended REM periods untill later in the morning. But, at least you will have more time to fall asleep - and you can't dream without sleeping!

If you sleep for only 4 hours its best to stay awake for 90 minutes before going back to sleep. If you sleep 6 hours its best to stay awake for only a half hour. And 5 hours, I think an hours the best. The key is timing it so your REM cycle is in full gear when you go to sleep again. And that it's one of the longest REM cycles of the night.

Hey,

Yeah I have had great success with the WBTB method. It's kind of hard to do during the work week though so I'm only able to use it on the weekends. When I really buckle down and try to use it I have over a 50% success rate I believe.

Nick

Originally posted by Wezel
Having read this, I am, like, so going to have an LD tonight!

I'll let you know if it works out.

I tried it, and I didn't succeed. I blame myself. Better luck next time...

this time im actually gonna do it . im gonna try it in combination with a WILD like you suggested in a different thread. cant remember which one . . .well anyways im gonna do it so wish me luck!

hey it's great to actually hear from someone that's had some success in this thread, it does a lot to motivate others... including me haha. My trouble is that when I do WBTB I try it once with no success and then give up... and sometimes it leaves me a little groggy, but that's no excuse. I guess I'll start trying it seriously this week and see how it goes.

Roller I agree.

Except my troubles is I can't keep myself up, or motivate myself to get up at 4-6am. I LOVE sleeping. It's hard.

Had a minor succes last night with WBTB, lucid for 25 secs or so.
I woke up after 3 hours of sleep, and was really tired and wanted to go for WILD instead. but since i havent given WBTB a shot for so long i thought it would be a waste if i didnt do it. So i dragged myself out of bed.. walked around a bit and read the forums. Back to bed and sleep, and a bit later in the dream i realized i was dreaming.

Gonna do it again tonight

I really have to take my hat off to the WBTB method. After a long dry spell (I went about 3 months with only 1 LD! The pain...) I did WBTB properly for the first time last night and had a long, vivid lucid dream. I have been very happy about it all day. I woke up after 6 hours of sleep, got on the computer (which is now in my room), and went on DV for half an hour while listening to a CD which is conveniently half an hour long, and somewhat strange and dreamlike (Ego Tripping at the Gates of Hell, if you must know). Then I went back to bed and said some affirmations. It worked brilliantly. I am now planning to do this as often as I can and I urge anyone having trouble LDing to try it.

EDIT: It's now two days later and I had another one. That's two in three days (66% success). I'm loving this!

Would it be a bad idea to try WBTB on a night when I have to get up early the next morning? Do you wake up feeling tired the next day?

funny you ask. Im wondering the same thing. I work at 6am monday through friday. Ive only tried once. This week actually, and it didnt work.(excluding brief lucidity that went nowhere) But I think the key is to go to sleep pretty early. Im going to try again tonight. But Im going to bed in 30 minutes. thats 8:30 here. So Ill wake at 1:30 and stay up and hour and go to sleep at 2:30. Its a good idea to have the time you go back to sleep real early in the night. 2:30 is probably perfect. When I tried it last time I went to sleep at 9:30 and woke at 3:30. Which may be good for most but since I needed to get up in an hour and a half it was hard to get back to sleep. Well, it's definately better to do it when you can sleep in and not have to worry about being anywhere. But I intend to get into a routine where I can regularly pull of the WBTB any day of the week. Well, I better get ready for bed now.

lol, I have had a 100% success rate with WBTB... bacause i only tried it once!

well, my second WBTB attempt, when I needed to get up early the next day, failed. 0 for 2. I think for me personally it makes a big difference if I have somewhere to be. I think it really helps to be able to sleep in. Im gonna rest from trying today. But trying WBTB is never wasted. I had some crazy dreams ,and some very pleasant ones,and rememebered all of them. But still Im gonna wait til the weekend now. Its not far off anyhow.

So Lord Soth, you gonna try again then?

What technique do you use after going back to bed? I'm starting to get scared of trying to WILD after hearing some people's experiances with it.

scared of WILD? I dont get it. Not many things in this world more exciting and invigorating than a WILD. I have had quite a few WILDs and they are always amazing and positive. Id WILD every day if I could be so blessed.

My "method" when I sleep is hardly a method. I just try and focus on any HI and imagine walkign around a dreamscape. Thats it. Just pretend Im in a lucid dream already. Eventually I drift off, sometimes have a WILD, but usually just drift off. Then I realize soon enough....excluding my last two attempts

I am really interested in learning to WILD but everyone says it is the hardest technique to learn. Also I always hear of people getting stuck, or having interesting experiences but never actually getting a lucid dream.

To someone who has attempted WILD a fair amount: Is it worth it to start learning it, or are other simpler techniques better? And when you first start does anything happen, or do you have to attempt it many times before you can even get to the vibrational stage.

Thanks, the main reason that I'm thinking twice about WILDing is the voices people talk about. I just have a feeling that once I hear them, and if the WILD doesn't work, I won't fall asleep that night.

Ive never gotten a WILD while trying to WILD. Never. but Ive had several. Always when doignt he WBTB. It just happens sometimes.

I think this sounds like a good method. The only problem is that I don't own any books on dreaming and my computer is downstairs and my mom would definitely not approve of me getting on at 4 in the morning to look at a site about dreams.Any suggestions? Wait! I could just think very hardly about what I want to do in my LD and about LDing itself that might work...

Any comments?

you dont need to go on a computer. I wouldnt even reccomend it. Read a dream journal if you have it. Just look around and imagine youre dreaming, Youll figure something out.

I am going to WBTB tonight, I will just read (all 6 pages of) my dream journal. Do some yoga, I don't know yoga so that would be fun.

lolnah.

Actually... what would be good? Bright lights? Do stuff that would slightly wake me up? hardly move? Eat pie? ^___^