• Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views




    Results 1 to 24 of 24
    1. #1
      Duality TheUnknown's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jun 2004
      Location
      A tree house
      Posts
      612
      Likes
      132

      My method, not easy, but brings amazing lucids

      Ok, I've been working on alot of different experimentation on what causes me to have more lucids. Although I did not record most of my findings here as I found most of them inconclusive, it appears I may have a method that works better then anything else I can think of.

      First off, I want to mention side things I use thoughout most of my lucid nights. I take 50mg of b6 once or twice a day, usually a few hours before going to sleep, and sometimes in the morning as well. This hasn't really helped me to induce LDs, but it does seem to make the ones I have much clearer. I would put b6 down as something inconclusive where I've still had very good LDs without it.

      Another thing I usually do before going to sleep is have a cup of mint tea. This seems to work wonders on making sleep more smooth for me. Otherwise I just crash and have a sleepless night, but something in the mint helps me to concentrate. Its just good stuff for relaxin and shit.

      I decided to give physical exercise a shot and my result at first was very good, but later on I decided that all it does is help my sleep to be shorter and more regenerative. I've seen NO evidence of it helping me to LD.

      One of my most promising things is sleeping twice a day, I sleep about 4-5 hours at night, and 3 or so on the couch during the day. This has been hit and miss... but I found that late at night I somethings WILD with ease and almost have OBEs whenever I do this. I still can't say though this method has success all the time.. I'm weighin it at about 30% success right now, and I think its dependent on the next thing I mention.

      THIS one i've thought about many times and made note of whether it works or not. I'm seeing between 90-100% success depending on the level its done... so heres what is is.

      This is going to sound dumb, and I dismissed it for months. It seems that whenever extreme mental concentration is exercised at any time of the day, at night the most amazing LDs happen. And sleep time is no issue either, i've seen amazing LDs after only 3-4 hours of sleep.

      So what sort of cocentration would do this you ask? Well, since i'm a procrastinator, I always push off doing my homework, and I tend to have to do alot of accounting homework which takes a solid 2-3 hours of uninteruppted work. I've had amazing LDs after working till 2-3am and only sleeping till 6am.

      So why did I write this just now then if I've noticed the effect? Simple, yesterday I had to take the fucking SAT. I was there from 7:30AM till 12:30PM, I hate it, but it takes up lots of time and concentration. I then went to my cousin's later in the day, chilled there till about 12 midnight. Went home, had a cup of mint tea and some b-6, tryed to get OSx86 up and going again. I then went to sleep and had the most amazing LD I've had this year.

      You could be saying that its many other things.. but I don't ever push myself at school, so I wouldn't call that concentrating, however on tests and reports that get overdue, I need to exercise alot more concentration.

      I even noticed the night before the SAT when I had studied, I had stronger dreams and semi-lucids then I would normally ever get. I'm assuming that it stimulates brain waves or something and really gets dream activity up.

      I hope this thread can be of help. I'll continue experimenting and see if new methods can get this to work even better.
      Just keep moving…

    2. #2
      Dream Architect Alucinor Architecton's Avatar
      Join Date
      Apr 2005
      Location
      The Golden State
      Posts
      291
      Likes
      1
      So you rmethod is to drink Mint Tea and do the SATs?
      Sweet Dreams
      Adopted by Ex Nine, who probably isnt here anymore

      AND GestaltAlteration, who is back

    3. #3
      Member Achievements:
      1 year registered Veteran First Class 5000 Hall Points
      dearly's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 2005
      Posts
      117
      Likes
      7
      Congratulations! It's nice to see that you're experimenting with different methods to induce lucid dreams rather than going by-the-book. It sounds like you're really getting to understand your body and mind.

      Different things work better for different people. You have to experiment with different things to find out what works best for you. What works for one person might not work for others.

      Thanks for sharing,

      D

    4. #4
      Duality TheUnknown's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jun 2004
      Location
      A tree house
      Posts
      612
      Likes
      132
      Originally posted by Alucinor Architecton
      So you rmethod is to drink Mint Tea and do the SATs?
      Whatever works. If it helps me to stand on my head for 2 hours a day, I might give it a shot.
      Just keep moving…

    5. #5
      Member Middlerun's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jul 2005
      Location
      Here behind my Wall
      Posts
      85
      Likes
      0
      What about exercising concentration during WBTB? I had an idea a while ago of doing a Sudoku puzzle or something during WBTB time, to put yourself in an alalytical state of mind. I haven't tried it yet. Would that work as well?

    6. #6
      Member Darkhack's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 2005
      Location
      Kansas City
      Posts
      20
      Likes
      0
      hmm interesting. This makes sense though since one of the most popular theories about dreaming and REM sleep is to organize thoughts, memories and information. I too am a procrastinater, lol. I am currently a sophomore in highschool so I guess if I put a lot of effort into my school work I may be able to get a win-win situation where my grades improve and have lucid dreams!!! sweet! I also do programming which can give me something to do on the weekend. I will definately give this a try. I thought about exercising but haven't got around to it and I thought that might help a lot. I do a lot of mental work, but I'll see what happens when I push my self harder than normal and see what the outcome is. Thanks for the advice! Just give me a week or so and I'll report back to this thread.
      Lucid Dreams So Far: 3

    7. #7
      Member Achievements:
      Referrer Bronze 1 year registered Veteran First Class 10000 Hall Points
      iadr's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jul 2004
      Location
      USA
      Posts
      1,185
      Likes
      14
      DJ Entries
      1
      Excellent method Unknown,

      I've had similar results a couple of times when my concentration was very strong during the evening and I was able to go to bed concentrating on my third eye, as the concentration carried right over into my dreams and I became aware that I was dreaming.

      I think I will experiement with this some more.

    8. #8
      Member Underfinger's Avatar
      Join Date
      Dec 2005
      Location
      Alabama = (
      Posts
      18
      Likes
      0
      Hmm...

      Exams start next week.
      dancing things!

    9. #9
      Banned
      Join Date
      Oct 2005
      Gender
      Posts
      4,571
      Likes
      1070
      Originally posted by Middlerun
      What about exercising concentration during WBTB? I had an idea a while ago of doing a Sudoku puzzle or something during WBTB time, to put yourself in an alalytical state of mind. I haven't tried it yet. Would that work as well?
      I can confirm that this indeed does work. I tried playing the game Advance Wars: DS (an awesome strategy game), while WILDing a few times. It did well to get me into that state of mind, however, I didn't succeed at the WILD, nor did I become lucid. I think it was due to being too awake from sleeping for too long, so I could not strike the balance. I'll try this again tonight, though.

    10. #10
      Member Enf0rc3r's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 2005
      Posts
      13
      Likes
      0
      I'm definitely gonna giv this a try, have to do lots of math anyway, quite complicated stuff, hard to stay concentrated. So I too am gonna try to push myself real hard in concentrating, do this for a week or so and maybe report back.

      This really sounds though as if it could be a very powerful technique, but I think what's keeping most people from doing this is the high amount of effort you would have to put in every day while concentrating. Although, if the amount of effort equals the amount of success with this technique it's definitely worth it AND you get something out of it which benefits you in RL. Great idea Unkown, thx 4 the suggestion

    11. #11
      Member
      Join Date
      Aug 2005
      Posts
      57
      Likes
      0
      This guy knows what he's talking about. The night after taking the SAT i also has probably the most amazing lucid dream so far. It was incredible. So if you wanna have some awsome lucids, take the SAT.
      "If you don't change your beliefs, your life will be like this forever. Is that good news?"-Douglas Adams

    12. #12
      Member [VJGX]'s Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 2005
      Gender
      Location
      SoCal
      Posts
      28
      Likes
      0
      Interesting. I may try remembering to concentrate on lucid dreaming on days when I have such concentration requirements. Thanks. 8)
      Reality Check. Now.

    13. #13
      Duality TheUnknown's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jun 2004
      Location
      A tree house
      Posts
      612
      Likes
      132
      I've never actually tried this during WBTB, this is usually before i goto sleep at night. The lucids are deeper when you have them only a few hours into sleep.
      Just keep moving…

    14. #14
      Lurker
      Join Date
      Dec 2005
      Posts
      3
      Likes
      0
      I just read your original post now, and you've brought a fact that I didn't even consider into why I had my first LD. I had spent a fair deal of time during that day frustrated and dedicatedly working on getting video and sound in Mac OSX x86. I mean, I was frantically working to get results, and to my dissatisfaction, it didn't work, and I gave up, then some time later went to bed. I've got five school labs due in the next week, so I'm thinking I'm going to do them all TONIGHT, and see if the mental concentration I put towards those help provoke another LD tonight.

      Interesting post,
      d3monn

    15. #15
      Member kafine's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 2005
      Location
      wales
      Posts
      291
      Likes
      0
      Well, I'm writing an evil essay at the moment (yes, right at this moment. I'm not really surfing the internet, I'm a hard worker, honest), which would suggest that I should dream better.

      But no, I know I won't. Because it stresses me out, and I know what kind of dreams I get when I'm stressed. I get fast moving jumpy pointless ones that are hard to remember.

      What can I do that isn't for school?
      Roddi i mi galon lán

    16. #16
      Member kafine's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 2005
      Location
      wales
      Posts
      291
      Likes
      0
      Originally posted by Philman123
      This guy knows what he's talking about. The night after taking the SAT i also has probably the most amazing lucid dream so far. It was incredible. So if you wanna have some awsome lucids, take the SAT.
      I would accssiate having an amazing lucid dream after taking exams (as apposed to studying for them) as a dream caused by the relief of stress, rather than the mental stimulation.

      But maybe that's just my brain that does that. It hates being made to work.
      Roddi i mi galon lán

    17. #17
      Raj
      Raj is offline
      Member Raj's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jul 2005
      Location
      New York City
      Posts
      13
      Likes
      0

      Attaining Lucidity

      I've done the B6 thing with mixed results, and also tried melatonin which worked . . . ehhh! . . .OK . . . I suppose . . . but I suspected that there was something better. I did a search on the web about herbs to induce lucidity, and I came up with lycoris radiata, an herbal extract from the Spider Lily flower. The dreams I've been having are nothing short of fantastic, and I'm wondering if anyone else has tried this supplement and what were their experiences. Thanx for the tip about the mint tea; I'll definitely give it a try.
      God Bless!
      yerfren & fellow oneironaut,
      R Raj eL

      "Don't compromise yourself. You are all you've got."
      Janis Joplin

    18. #18
      Member Achievements:
      1 year registered Veteran First Class 5000 Hall Points
      Drifter's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 2003
      Location
      Canada
      Posts
      33
      Likes
      1

      Re: Attaining Lucidity

      Originally posted by Raj
      I've done the B6 thing with mixed results, and also tried melatonin which worked . . . ehhh! . . .OK . . . I suppose . . . but I suspected that there was something better. I did a search on the web about herbs to induce lucidity, and I came up with lycoris radiata, an herbal extract from the Spider Lily flower. The dreams I've been having are nothing short of fantastic, and I'm wondering if anyone else has tried this supplement and what were their experiences. Thanx for the tip about the mint tea; I'll definitely give it a try.

      did you use what is called Galanthamine? i looked up lycoris radiata and found that its extracted into Galanthamine

    19. #19
      Banned
      Join Date
      Feb 2006
      Location
      null
      Posts
      429
      Likes
      2
      Originally posted by Alucinor Architecton
      So you rmethod is to drink Mint Tea and do the SATs?
      His method is basicly saying that "concentrating in the day will help you concentrate at night."

    20. #20
      Mentor ZenVortex's Avatar
      Join Date
      Mar 2006
      Posts
      206
      Likes
      2
      Very Interesting, concentration on something at night is a lucidity trigger? Has anybody had any LDs from playing chess or videogames or doing artwork before going to bed or during the midsleep break? I recently played some chess during the midsleep break a couple of times but nothing came of it. However, I may give it another try.

      I heard from an experienced lucid dreamer that he usually gets up after several hours of sleep and does some work (academic/business/writing), and that it seems to be a major factor. Sounds like a brilliant idea. Go to bed and have a few hours of sleep, then get up and do some creative work, then go back to bed and have a LD.

      I like it !!! Let's keep this thread going...

    21. #21
      Member WaveShaper's Avatar
      Join Date
      Aug 2004
      Posts
      182
      Likes
      0
      hmmm if this method works for me...looks like I have a nice reason to do some work for once

      Thinking about it now, though, I do remember having very dream filled nights around exam time.

    22. #22
      Member ShYne123's Avatar
      Join Date
      Mar 2006
      Gender
      Location
      CT USA
      Posts
      596
      Likes
      1
      I think i might have the whole wilding thing skrewed up..right now its 4:50 in monring, i woke up at 4:30 and im gunna be awake untill 5:30 then try and wild. I went to sleep at 10. (Yes thats how desprate i am to go to sleep at 10 on a weeknight to try my third wild) So this is my question...you can WILD but you dont use WBTB? How dose that happen...i thought you could only WILD if / when your body fell asleep it went into REM. --Note i kinda suck at that too...i !CANT! naturally wakeup after dreams and i set my alarm 5.5, 6, and 6.5hrs into sleep EVERYnight and cant ever seem to be woken up from a dream (only happened twcie) And for the past like two weeks my dream recall sucked..the first too weeks i remembered them every morning..pissing me off by the way. Also i want to address the issue of working out it dosnt help lol. I have a bowflex in my room that i workout on everynight before sleep (cept past few night, cuz i broke my fist) no differenace between me then and now. Also for the concentration thing, i am in drafting wich requirs Much concentration (i kno right finally a drafter that works out lol :-D .) And i still have had only had 1random DILD..how do you get LD's just DILD? Or do you wakeup and try MILD? It seems as though MILD is hopless for me sense i cant wake up in REM..so could you please elaborate a little more? Thanks alot --(To author), but if anyone else has a response that would be very nice :-)
      LD - 14

      LD Genius

    23. #23
      Member ShYne123's Avatar
      Join Date
      Mar 2006
      Gender
      Location
      CT USA
      Posts
      596
      Likes
      1
      Well i accuily woke up after two REM cylces lastnight but that was after i was awake writing a letter to someone for a hour. Maby i need to do WBTB everynight...or just sleep more? i sleep 7hours pernight weekdays. Lastnight i slept 9hours and the two dreams that i wokeup from were after 6olock.
      LD - 14

      LD Genius

    24. #24
      Member danbarber's Avatar
      Join Date
      Dec 2005
      Location
      My heaven, your hell
      Posts
      491
      Likes
      2
      Concentrating through out the day helps? I'll have to remember that, I have my GCSE exams coming up in a few months too. Thanks
      Recent Dream journal note : I was swallowed by some kind of sea-snake thing

    Bookmarks

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •