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      Ok , I know as a general rule to much alcohol is a killer for dream recall but I have found that if I dont over do it then I have many dreams in the early morning hours.. Most of the time they are more vivid then normal and I can recall them.

      From what I have read this is becasue alcohol suppress rem sleep and what happens later is you get rem rebound... Anyone else expeienced this?

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      I have done a few 'experiments' and made a note of what I have drunk and how much and then see how the night goes. I have also done the same for different cheeses in the evening.

      So far, I agree with your comments. I have found that on nights I have abstained (hard work!) I have had a deeper and more refreshing sleep with feeble or no dream recall, on my usual daily consumption (which isn't much) I have fairly good dream recall.

      As I detest hangovers and at all costs to avoid them, I have found that on the occasions I may have had slightly too much than is good for me, I try to drink plenty of water before bedtime to dillute it all a bit. The trouble is then, of course, I am in and o ut of the toilet all night so the night is much more disturbed. So far, as far as I can recall, the dreams can be slightly harder to recall, or more accurately, harder to make sense of. This is because they tend to be wilder and more disjointed.

      So IMHO, a little alcohol seems to improve deam frequency & recall, but this may be because it is relaxing and therefore putting you in a better frame of mind. I am not sure what happens if you're depressed and drink.
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      Originally posted by Pokle
      I have done a few 'experiments' and made a note of what I have drunk and how much and then see how the night goes. I have also done the same for different cheeses in the evening.
      Have you found any type of cheese that has worked well?
      Have you tried this one?


      Blue Stilton is often eaten with celery, or added to cream of celery soup. Alternatively it is eaten with various crackers and biscuits. Traditionally, port is drunk with blue Stilton.

      A 2005 study carried out by the British Cheese Board discovered that when it came to dream types, Stilton cheese seemed to cause odd dreams, with 75% of men and 85% of women experiencing bizarre and vivid dreams after eating a 20g piece of the cheese 30 minutes before going to sleep.

      White Stilton is, by itself, sometimes considered to be unfinished. It is often blended with other materials, such as chocolate or dried fruit. Otherwise it is often served with fruit cake.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stilton_cheese

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      Yeah I have the same. Some good dreams after a night of (moderate) drinking 8)
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      definitely

      and like you, only if I don't overdo it

      can't say it helps lucidity or not, but it definitely gives me great recall (and exceptionally twisted dreams)

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      Agreed - too much alcohol makes my dream recall very difficult and the dreams I do remember are very disjointed.

      A moderate amount (1-2 glasses of wine) seems to have the opposite effect with long, interesting and vivid dreams.

      I've found that drinking a glass of water at bedtime actually helps me with lucid dreaming sometimes. It acts as a natural alarm clock around 5am so I can usually get back to sleep quickly, back into the same dream but knowing its a dream (found that out by accident LOL)

      I can definately relate to the Stilton too - I love the stuff and have noticed a direct connection between suppertime stilton and weird, vivid dreaming.

      To be honest though - the most fruitful dreams (lucid, meaningful, memorable) have been without 'stimulation' !

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      alcohol

      I find that If i've had one too many the night before I have a FA in the morning where I get out of bed really thirsty, I go to the fridge and drink as much water or milk as possible but it never quenshes my thirst.
      This is probably due to the fact that i'm dehydrated and my mind wants me to drink something. Ha Ha its really weird when I actually do wake up becasue I have to get up and drink something again... but in the waking world I feel terribe and hungover
      I do agree though that a moderate amount of alcohol can improve the vividness of my dreams.

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      Same for me; I don't drink much, so when I do I pretty much always remember my dreams.

      I had some weird ones on new years day!

      I guess you have to drink and not get drunk.

      I think it depends on what you're drinking as well. When I started at university, I several times had a pint of snakebite, and noticed no change in my dreaming.

      Whereas on new years eve I was drinking... champagne and tia maria.
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      Anyone tried drinking absinthe before bed?
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      Originally posted by mongreloctopus
      Anyone tried drinking absinthe before bed?
      Now that sounds like a freaky idea. Have you?
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      Well, sort of. But I was also drinking a lot of other things, so being awake and asleep kind of blur together, along with the rest of the week...(vacation in prague)
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      Originally posted by OpheliaBlue
      definitely
      and like you, only if I don't overdo it
      can't say it helps lucidity or not, but it definitely gives me great recall (and exceptionally twisted dreams)
      And when is this you do not over do it?
      If you are like me your dream is to the porcelan god.


      Anyone tried drinking absinthe before bed? [/b]
      What is absinthe?

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      Originally posted by Saska
      Agreed - too much alcohol makes my dream recall very difficult and the dreams I do remember are very disjointed.

      A moderate amount (1-2 glasses of wine) seems to have the opposite effect with long, interesting and vivid dreams.

      I've found that drinking a glass of water at bedtime actually helps me with lucid dreaming sometimes. It acts as a natural alarm clock around 5am so I can usually get back to sleep quickly, back into the same dream but knowing its a dream (found that out by accident LOL)

      I can definately relate to the Stilton too - I love the stuff and have noticed a direct connection between suppertime stilton and weird, vivid dreaming.

      To be honest though - the most fruitful dreams (lucid, meaningful, memorable) have been without 'stimulation' !
      I have not been able to find the stilton anywhere around where I live. Where do you get it?

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      I went over what would be considered a little last night and I had at least 2 dreams that I forgot but had 2 that I did recall and one of them I even got lucid for just a minute..Was pretty cool becasue my recall had been terrible this past week

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      [quote]What is absinthe?
      Well, I'm unclear on the details, but it's an expensive green alcoholic drink that can produce strange hallucinations.
      I'm not sure if you have to drink it a particular way for this to happen though. My wife seems to think so.

      Actually I just looked it up on wikipedia, and it seems those claims are highly exaggerated. Most of the time it's a placebo.
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      [quote]And when is this you do not over do it?
      If you are like me your dream is to the porcelan god.


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      Originally posted by dreamaccount2000


      I have not been able to find the stilton anywhere around where I live. Where do you get it?
      I am surprised you are having difficulty finding it, but perhaps its a 'regional taste' thing which may be unpopular in your area. Just about every supermarket, deli or even market stalls will have Stilton along with other, more ordinary cheeses like Cheddar, Red Leicester etc. All cheese, IMHO, seem to have some effect on dreams. Soft French cheese still produce effects, Brie, Camembert etc.

      See if you can find a store selling cheese of a counter loose, rather than pre-packed. As with all cheeses, different suppliers will taste different. Normally it is expected to be 'hot' but with only a slight bite. Cheap and inferior Stiltons can bite back a bit too much and leave your mouth feeling sore! So if you find one to be unpleasant, see if you can find a different make.

      The article from the English Cheese Board (not sure pun intended) was for research on cheese/dreams. They are of course, only interested in promoting English cheeses (not for their dreaming powers! ). Try any cheese and make notes of how much you ate (along with other foods too) and the types of dreams which follow.
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      Absinthe is a really alcoholic (traditionally around 80%) liquor that contains wormwood (Artemisia Absinthium), a really mild, really bitter psychoactive herb. In the EU it's illegal to put more than 0.05% in per liter or something ridiculous like, but in the Czech Republic there is no regulation, and if you search hard enough you find the original formula, which I believe is closer to 10%. However, from reports I have read especially from artists and poets in the 20s and before (specifically Hemingway) it seems like you have to drink ridiculous amounts of this before you actually feel any real effect. Ridiculous amounts going beyond a liter...Which sort of closes the door to anyone who is not a raging alcoholic.[/i]
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      Originally posted by Pokle

      I am surprised you are having difficulty finding it, but perhaps its a 'regional taste' thing which may be unpopular in your area. Just about every supermarket, deli or even market stalls will have Stilton along with other, more ordinary cheeses like Cheddar, Red Leicester etc. All cheese, IMHO, seem to have some effect on dreams. Soft French cheese still produce effects, Brie, Camembert etc.

      See if you can find a store selling cheese of a counter loose, rather than pre-packed. As with all cheeses, different suppliers will taste different. Normally it is expected to be 'hot' but with only a slight bite. Cheap and inferior Stiltons can bite back a bit too much and leave your mouth feeling sore! So if you find one to be unpleasant, see if you can find a different make.

      The article from the English Cheese Board (not sure pun intended) was for research on cheese/dreams. They are of course, only interested in promoting English cheeses (not for their dreaming powers! ). Try any cheese and make notes of how much you ate (along with other foods too) and the types of dreams which follow.
      Thanks for the info...I will give this a try

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