Thread: Dream Matrix

Perphaps we could find a specfic picture of stonehenge that everyone interested could look at and "absorb" into their brain. Just because there are plenty of pictures of stonehenge and if we all focus on one it may help. Just an idea

what about the celestial library?its a method hypno people use basicly its a huge library that has books that contain any and everything.even past lifes.but this could pose a probplem cause the library has no definite form. sorry stupid idea.

WHAT THE CRAP IS THE STONEHEDGE?!?!!?!?




sry just gettin annoyed that no1 tells me what it is!

i will tell you if you stop screaming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!now then stonehenge is a rock formation in england. it was obviously set up by ancient people but why is still being debated on. there.NOW STOP FRIGIN YELLING!!!!!!!!!

Yeahh...you hit it spot on Cyber. Like I said, the simpler we can make things to being with, the better. And now that you say that, I often remember actions much more then words in a dream. The color thing as well. And Philman, I'd agree with your idea, but I think having a gallery of stonehenge, like different pictures of diffrenent angles, would help to give our minds a much more solid and 3d image, rather then a 2d image. As for the Celestial Library, definetly a good idea BUT like you said it has no definite form, which is bad because that means that if any detail is out of place, then we could be in completely different areas. It's very important we are in the EXACT same place. If we can get all the details, I suspect that we'd have to be in the same place in a dream. And Cyber, I'm willing to help with whatever's needed....I really need something to focus on, help me break more into my dream conscious. I think a focus could definetly hone some ability. Perhaps tonight we can set up a task for everyone that's interested to try to visit Stonehenge tonight?

in your dream, when u go to stonehenge, and you think the matrix really works, u might have dream charactors made up by your mind yourself that are other "dreamres."

I know. That's a problem that'll hopefully be solved by the unique actions of an "avatar". That'll seperate out everyone that's actually a dreamer from the DC's created by our minds. Cause the DC's created by our mind won't know what THEIR unique actions are. So that's our beta phase....kinda testing the water to see if dream sharing is really possible.

Alright guys, a couple of clarifications:

First of all, I suggested stonehenge because its antiquity makes it virtually unchangeable. If you were to make a change there, you would probably be shifted into your own mindscape, with DCs of anyone you were in contact with. To gather there together, you need to visualize it as it stands today, with no modifications. Otherwise you undermine its value as a meeting place.

As for DC "dreamers", it's entirely possible, but it is much more difficult to create a stable being on the astral plane than it is to create a DC. If there is someone there you don't recognize, then they were probably there for their own reasons. I would reccomend NOT trying godlike mind weapons on anyone or anything you encounter there. Might not be safe.

AFAIK, the Celestial Library is something you access rather than visit, which is why it has no definite form. If it had been founded recently, it would probably be called the Celestial Database.

Lastly, I would reccomend that you travel "up" to stonehenge; it will increase your chances of arriving at the genuine article. Be safe!

I see....that's kinda the point I was getting at earlier. Totally didn't recognize I was contradicting myself when I said it would be good to make changes. My bad.....And as for using godlike mind weapons, that's a definite no. Wouldn't do that. I think, while I'm interested in this game, I'm more into this project for the reason of finding out about dream sharing. I've been interested in this topic for a while...and this game idea gives a kind of center point around which alot of people can focus. Much simpler way of sharing dreams. But I'll definetly keep your advice in mind O-Nieronaut....Thanks.

I think everyone has brought up some good points. The first thing we should do is try to get to stonehenge while we are dreaming (lucid or not). I will start trying tonight. If I manage to go lucid, it should be no problem, but I don't go lucid every night (I guess thats something else we all should be working on). I have had success influencing non-lucid dreams using suggestion. We could use stonehenge as a common dream-sign and thus increase our chances of attaining lucidity. Once we can do this consistantly, then we can attempt to set up pre-planned meetings.

I found some good dreamy photos of stonehenge on the net. Maybe these will help people visualize. Try studying the pictures right before bed and tell yourself you will visit stonehenge when you dream. I will try this myself and see where it gets me.






// cybereality

cool ok

First of all, I could host the server. Second of all, i had an idea we can discuss. Iwas thinking that depending on how many times you lucid dream you can do more things. and randomly through the game you will wake up and be send to a bedroom map. when you go into the bed again you will go into a dream with 1 higher level. You could start out with things that are easy and higher levels measn harder tasks. And at level 50 you could basicly do anything

godlike mind weapons?
what's that?

That'd be awesome Criss-Cross...I'll wait for Cyber to post what he thinks, since he seems to be the one on the lead with this project. But I like your idea, and I think that will definetly play into the game. The more lucid control you have, obviously the better player you will be. Once we get this "beta" phase complete, which is really to see if dream-sharing is possible, then we can start doing stuff like that. One comment I'd like to add however, is as for me, I'm hoping for the complete destruction of limits. I want this "game" to be a no limits thing, something only inhibited b y the amount of control your mind has. Putting level restrictions on it would be bringing it down to earth, and I think that's the last thing we want.....But other then that, I think it should just be measured in control rather then levels.

so wait wait wait....hold up.....ok i been tryin to read this subject.....so we all go to sleep tonight and try to visualize goin to stonehedge....and hopefully we will see ppl from the world there? how do u kno it will be them and not someone made up by ur mind? and how will someone like me....whose only had on LD so far and on a dry spell manage to come up wit a feat? EXPLAIN MORE IN DETAIL and if I can manage to understand...........after all said and done.......im down wit it

Originally posted by Siav
That'd be awesome Criss-Cross...I'll wait for Cyber to post what he thinks, since he seems to be the one on the lead with this project. But I like your idea, and I think that will definetly play into the game. The more lucid control you have, obviously the better player you will be. Once we get this "beta" phase complete, which is really to see if dream-sharing is possible, then we can start doing stuff like that. One comment I'd like to add however, is as for me, I'm hoping for the complete destruction of limits. I want this "game" to be a no limits thing, something only inhibited b y the amount of control your mind has. Putting level restrictions on it would be bringing it down to earth, and I think that's the last thing we want.....But other then that, I think it should just be measured in control rather then levels.

thats a good idea, but i cant think of any way to limit it to control.
Even if there IS a way, player worlds is pretty confined and i probably couldnt add it.
Then again, with help from other experienced programmers we could make this game from scratch.

Off-Topic: LucidDreamer8806, you're exactly right.

Haha...you're thinking the wrong way. We're not limiting it to control, we're freeing it up to control. When you make control the deciding factor, then it can expand infinetly. There really are no limits. And Lucid...We've been working on those kinds of things. The way to tell is this avatar idea we have in mind. With a unique action of password, that you have no idea about, if you manage to meet a person there, you will be able to tell if it is a DC or a real person by asking the person the next day. If what you saw matches up with their unique sign, you know it happened. And as for just begnning on Lucid dreaming...hopefully this will provide an outlet for practice, a goal to focus on. I'm not new to Lucid Dreaming, but I'm in no ways experienced in it. And I still suck at it, only half Ld's here and there. But like I said, with this focus, maybe it will really get you going on lucid dreaming. I wish you luck tonight.

How bout you set it up like Yahoo! Games so it has a social lounge where people can chat?

can't you just talk or make a mind communication? it would me much easier

Well this "Dream Matrix" idea sounds awesome and stuff...But if "Dream Sharing" is possible, that means there is really a "dream realm".... or are we just entering in someone's dream (and consequently in his/her mind) ????

The first option seems very interesting.... but i don't like the second one. Who knows what might happen? The idea of someone hosting a server doesn't sound reliable at all. And what if the host lose lucidity? We would lose connection all the time =P it would seem like a real MMORPG game

Well.... if it's possible.....

count me in

It's done on the astral plane, not in anyone's actual mind. Think of it as a subjective universe; a place who's primary substance is ideas and concepts, rather than matter and energy. I'm working on a paper that will describe it in very rational terms; it should be done in about a month.

Impressive. Most impressive. Sounds like you guys and gals are planning on taking LDing to a whole new level. I'm still trying to become lucid more often, so I cant really be of any use to you right now, but this topic has gotten me motivated to try even harder So if I can get Lucid more, by all means count me in. Upon reading this topic, a number of questions have popped into my head :

1. Assuming this "Dream Matrix" is possible, will it be open to all Lucid Dreamers, or only a select group?

2. Will this be like an alternate world every night, or would we just meet on certain nights (ie. every Saturday at midnight)?

3. Would we be dream versions of our "waking" selves, or could we create our own "players" to our own liking, perhaps not even humans?

4.Will there be specific "rules" to play by?

Well, good luck to you all, assuming we even get past the "beta" stage. (P.S. This should almost be a research topic or be stickied or something. Amazing ideas all!)

So, if you all want to meet in dreamspace, why not use the image shown on this website as your collecting space....OR...make an image of some place and post it, and those who wish to meet can aim for that in their next ld. See ya there, maybe.

tonight i will host a meeting point at this location.

http://people.fruitsalad.org/martijn/kdepi...03.location.jpg

try and join. Ill say how many people i see and if i recognise anyone.