Thread: Going Nowhere Fast

I've been trying to become lucid for over 2 months now and had only been lucid once and that only lasted a split second. Although I havn't had much success, I have improved my dream recall from absolutely nothing to about 3 dreams a night. I find that to be a big success. Naturally, after gaining interest in LDing, I have done a lot of research into sleeping and dreaming and I have better understanding of it, and that too is a success. Keep trying! It'll come to you when you least expect it!

Yeah, well is something that lasts only a few seconds really worth it?

YES. And what better use of time that you just spend sleeping anyway?

Have you ever had an LD, Daviid?

I feel your pain, Daviid. I, too, haven't had success in attaining lucidity. However, I've heard it's extremely mind-expanding and pleasurable. Casually, I keep at it.

Don't get discouraged. Maybe give everything a break and come back to it later. Sometimes trying too hard can be counterproductive.

Hello Daviid,

When I was trying to obtain Lucidity, most of the people I knew had achieved it before me. It gets you thinking if what you’re doing in wrong in a way. I can tell you, there is nothing wrong. You just need to personalize your techniques. An example of this is I listen to classical music before going to bed for relaxation but some people may listen to a soundtrack of rain falling. It's all in the fine tunings.

Good luck.


- Axis

Originally posted by Burns
Don't get discouraged. Maybe give everything a break and come back to it later. Sometimes trying too hard can be counterproductive.

I second this. Sometimes, you just need to step back for a few days and forget about it. Then get back to it, and try again.

Right after this post, I got the closest I have gotten so far. Last night I took 1mg melatonin and 100mg B6 (together, which is a first). At one point in the night, I dreamt a huge test/exam was being passed around to my entire class. I realized that I was dreaming and didn't have to do it, so I woke myself up. It wasn't until morning that I realized how stupid I was for waking myself up

Better luck tonight.

Atleast you finally realized you were dreaming. I've yet to do that. But congrats on the realization! That's a big step and I'm jealous but hopefully I'll get there soon. happy dreaming!

I'm mildly happy about it. The thing is, I've had that same situation a bunch of times throughout my life. It's nothing I haven't done before (that is, taking a test and waking up on purpose).

Well, keep on keepin-on. Once you get that first really good LD, you'll be hooked

I used to have that experience all the time, especially as a little kid having nightmares. The key is knowing that you don't have to wake yourself up to get out of it, that you can just go do whatever you want instead. (I had one of these under a week ago when I saw my 1 y/o nephew puke all over my laptop. Unfortunately, in trying to keep the dream I ended up waking up.) So now that you know about LDing, it will be very easy for occasions like that.

But yeah, like it was said before: it's not like you have anything better to do while asleep. Unless of course you're using that crazy method where you wake up in the middle of the night for awhile.

Stay with it and develop your positive new LD habits. RCs, WBTB (stay up for 30 minutes and read a book on lucid dreaming or review postings on this Forum or do anything that requires analytical skills such as chess, math problems, writing, etc),
keep a dream journal, log onto this Forum every day and learning from others. Also try experimenting with Vitamin B6 and perhaps even a nicotine patch. Good luck.

Are you spending enough time doing RCs/thinking about LDs/recalling dreams? Ya aren't likely to see many results without these!

I think about my dreams all the time, as well as 'knowing' i'll have a lucid dream, and in the last week i've had 3 LDs, although it may be begginers luck, but persistance and determination is vital!

I don't know if this will help but in my own experience I've found that things from my waking life seem to take period of at least a month to cross over into my dreams. For example, if I've moved accomodation and am sleeping in a new room, it'll take at least a month before I start dreaming about my new bedroom instead of my old one.

This also seems to apply to LD induction techniques like reality-checks and recognising dream-signs. I spent about a month doing these fairly regularly (and, like the original poster, getting increasingly frustrated with the lack of results) before these techniques began to cross over into my dreams and trigger LDs. So, if you're using techniques like this, I would suggest that you try a bit longer. Hope this helps...

Thanks for the support guys. And by the way, I've been using B6 which does wonders.

I have to say that they hit it right on when they said something about r/c's, and such. I used to stop about 30-40 times per day and literally say "Wait a minute I am dreaming" low and behold I started doing that in my dreams. then I got sick, and started work, and forgot about doing this.... lucids stopped. although I promptly seem to wake up, it is well worth it to me, because sooner or later, I will stop waking up, and that is when the fun will start. This does take daily work, and like most good things.... reward don't come without hard work and dedication

Last night I had my very first "real" lucid dream... I've been trying for about a year.

The thing is, now that you know what a lucid dream is, it will stay in you mind FOREVER, which means that even if you stop trying, you will eventually happen. Just keep increasing dream recall and you will get it eventually.

I now remember 2 dreams a night usually, and I use to remember 0. When your councious mind starts realising what your dreams are like, your chance for lucidity increases.

One tip I can surely give is this, don't try too hard.

I had to stop trying COMPLETELY before I had my first one.

I think one of the most frustrating things that can happen in attempting to induce LDs is the false awakening. The number of times that I used to 'wake up' without actually doing so, and then cursing that the LD method I had used hadn't worked, only to find myself waking up AGAIN shortly after!!

I think the best time to perform a reality check is upon waking. And if you have a lucid dream, perform a reality check upon waking! It's very possible to wake up from one lucid dream and be in a false awakening.

I found it useful to perform reality checks when going through doors...it's good for your prospective memory. Also, if you keep a dream journal, perform a reality check on it because you could be writing in your dream.

Of course, once you start to experience LDs with a degree of regularity, reality checks can become redundant. In my dreams, I just know that I'm dreaming, and use reality checks to confirm it. But this comes with practice.

Feel free to ask me any questions.

Good luck.

Originally posted by Daviid
Who else is tired of failing *

Patience!

There are all sorts of structural things that must occur in consciousness... even in one's biology.

Then there is the Schedule of one's Life to consider. The Chinese had once done a chart -- what one expects of a young man in his 20's, or the growing expectations during the 30's, when a man comes into his own in his 40's, the fulfillments of the 50's and then the Culminations of the 60's. Against this Schedule, it is ridiculous for young people to expect everything in Life within a few months.

I had great progress last night actually. I did some drugs so time slowed down, and I couldn't tell what time it was because the clock kept morphing into different things. That was then followed by a dream where I realized I was only dreaming I did drugs. Two good dreamsigns...so close..

B6 is amazing.

ive been starting to practice lucid dreaming on last week and i went lucid for about 5 seconds! i was proud!

i dreamt my camera (my most prized possession) got lost but then i realized that it was on my living room table cause i was taking pictures of things before i went to bed. but then i lost it